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China Owes Us Nothing

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Dear Paul,

Referring to your post on page 1:

«America with its capitalist's greed are the real danger to world peace, that's obvious.»

World peace in our times is a dream as we were born in the wrong era (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Yuga).

Yet no matter when, as individuals we can always find peace within our own heart and need not have any enemy whatsoever.

If America's capitalist's greed sets us off-balance, then the solution is to work on eliminating our own greed.

«Our government is taking the right course in its dealings with our largest trading partner.»

Why "Our"? I don't have a government - search my pockets if you will...

Treating people collectively is problematic and cannot be the right course because they are so different from each other. You are not trading with every Chinese anyway, nor should you - trade and sympathise with the good ones and disregard the evil ones, including the Chinese government which oppresses the ordinary Chinese, not to mention the people they conquered.

Actually, not all Americans are greedy and evil either - just ignore their government too, as well as their greedy large corporations.

In fact, it is best not to relate to any governments at all, only with people.

«The instigator of war in our region is America, since WWII they have instigated wars in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan etc»

I supported the American war on the Taliban, because I care for the Afghani people, especially the women, but then it appears like the Americans only fought for their own interests and bitterly betrayed the Afghani women the moment it was no longer convenient to protect them.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 20 August 2025 5:38:30 PM
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I think what mhaze was referring to when he mentioned Japan was that - Japan went to war with the west, when the League Of Nations denied Japan oil, because of the Sino-Japanese War. I think mhaze is implying that to deny China too much would be to force them to invade Australia. Personally I believe that Western Trade has created the current problem with China- they have taken what the west has been willing to give, in exchange for aspirational good behavior, and stabbed us with it. The West thought they could use Soft Power to set an example for China, a taste of the benefits of free trade, to encourage them to give up Marxism on their own terms. The Chinese have misused our good faith attempts, now is the time to take away our benevolence, but we can hold out any malevolence. But just remember Machiavelli says we only delay war to the enemies advantage.
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 20 August 2025 9:08:21 PM
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