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Auslan is a language, ttbn.

It has its own grammar and syntax, independent of English, and is recognised in Australia as the primary language of the Deaf community. Dismissing it as “just signing” is like dismissing any other minority language.

English remains overwhelmingly dominant in Australia. The Census shows 72% speak only English at home, and most who speak another language are also fluent in English. Multilingual Australia’s advocacy isn’t about replacing English - it’s about inclusion for communities that already exist here, and it doesn’t remove English from public life.

Regarding the visa changes, a PTE score of 24 is not “24 out of 30.” PTE is scored on a scale from 10 to 90, and 24 equates to IELTS 4.5 - “functional English” under our migration framework. That’s enough for basic communication, and most entrants continue improving their English after arrival. At the same time, requirements for students and graduates have actually gone up.

Finally, the “grateful Labor voters” conspiracy theory still faces the same problems:

- permanent residents can’t vote,
- citizenship takes years,
- and many migrant communities lean socially conservative - and sometimes economically - sometimes aligning more with the Coalition’s positions than Labor’s.

If that’s a Labor vote-harvesting scheme, it’s a spectacularly inefficient one.
Posted by John Daysh, Monday, 11 August 2025 4:07:38 PM
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G'day John,

My experience with migrants from non-English speaking countries over about 40 years, is the majority speak fairly reasonable English, as a second language, men more so than women. Those with Tertiary educations, generally speak very good English. Indians are really a surprise they probably speak better English than ttbn.

p/s Had an Australian woman to deal with yesterday, at crises central, her lingo went something like this; "I f'n told him, I had f'n had enough, he's just F'n... f up! Doesn't f'n know what he's f'n do'n" That's a f'n true story, maybe she should be deported back to F'nville where she came from!
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 11 August 2025 6:54:48 PM
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If you're interested ttbn there is a protest against high levels of immigration on the 31st August in all states.

http://marchforaustralia.org/

This is similar to many recent protests around the world. I understand even the apparently "immigration extremist" Trudeau has been forced to backflip on immigration.

http://www.newsweek.com/justin-trudeau-admits-immigration-mistakes-canada-changes-policy-1988094

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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said his government "made some mistakes" on immigration while outlining the country's plans to reduce the number of immigrants arriving under its permanent residency program over the next three years.

In YouTube videos posted on Sunday, Trudeau made the remarks in English and French, saying, "Bad actors, like fake colleges and big chain corporations, have been exploiting our immigration system for their own interests.
The prime minister said, "Far too many colleges and universities used international students to raise their bottom line because they could charge these students tens of thousands of dollars more for the same degree."

He continued, "There are really bad actors who outright exploit people, who target vulnerable immigrants with promises of jobs, diplomas and easy pathways to citizenship—promises that would never come true."
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But Australia's extreme genocidal immigration policy seems to be at even greater levels.
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 12 August 2025 1:26:32 AM
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Many Australian inner cities districts have been taken over by international student slums.
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 12 August 2025 1:29:31 AM
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Better to be racist than dead...

We the founding culture of Australia need to create a nation that ensures the survival of our children. We can't help everyone on the Earth. It is the responsibility of other cultures to look after their children's future.

For thousands of years cultures have had to protect their interests from outsiders seeking to exploit their discipline and productivity, this time is no different. There are many ways that outsiders will seek to take your belongings.

If our culture is to serve as an example to the world, our culture must survive. If the world don't want to follow our example that is their choice.

It's cowardice to suicide western culture, in a slow death of dissolution, to a nihilistic world.

We don't tell outsiders how to live, and we don't let others tell us.

If outsiders want to learn from us, mostly we have been happy to explain.

Better to be racist than dead!
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 12 August 2025 1:45:31 AM
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Good points, Paul.

The data I’ve seen lines up with your experience, and that example you gave of the woman at crisis central is perfect.

Mate, you know what I reckon? Fckin’… I reckon we round the lot of ’em up and shoot ’em, rite? I mean, the fckin’ abbos are comin’ ’ere by the boatload, mate!

Fckin’… I seen this one darky the other day, rite - the ones with the towels around their fckin’ heads - I seen him linin’ up at fckin’ Centrelink.

Mate, me and the missus gotta support the fckin’ kids, rite? How we supposed to do that when we’re supportin’ him too? Sinkin’ a carton of piss every night ain’t makin’ it any fckin’ easier - I'll tell ya that much!

And they’re takin’ all our fckin’ jobs, mate! If I lose me job, where am I gonna get a new one?

Fckin’ Schrödinger’s immigrants, I tell ya.
Posted by John Daysh, Tuesday, 12 August 2025 2:45:44 AM
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