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Former PM John Howard calls to reintroduce the baby bonus

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I have responded to a thread started by Nathan. That response is for Nathan, and only Nathan. I have no interest in what other posters wish to say to Nathan; yet some posters (always the same ones) rudely ignore the instigators of threads, and use the opportunity to disparage the responses of people they don't like, and fling personal insults at them, and to hell with the actual topic.

You are bloody morons.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 4 August 2025 9:50:35 AM
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Baby bonuses will invariably abused by the undeserving & selfish & dark ages religious groups !
The mothers who really need them will not see any improvement in their life.
Child care will go up before the first bonuses are paid as will baby food etc etc.
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 4 August 2025 7:15:27 PM
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This is what Baby bonuses contribute to !
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 4 August 2025 8:29:17 PM
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NO to another baby bonus. In business at the time it was fantastic, I will readily admit this. A common comment from many pregnant customers at the time was "gotta get that baby bonus" when a baby in a pram was hungry, the one on the hip was hungry and some KFC or similar was tea for the night. The kids were not wanted from conception unfortunately, and that is where many problems are coming from now. TV sales, rubbish toys, bikes, cars, sales of numerous not required items, went through the roof, great for business but did not achieve the results expected. Not in the region of low income, maybe in some areas people made hay out of it.
Posted by gj123, Monday, 4 August 2025 9:35:09 PM
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I will go through some of the comments here and respond.

ttbn,

<<It's an excellent idea. A return to the days of ‘child endowment’, where mothers received regular cheques to help with raising children...>>

I think in principle people should be able to afford to look after their own children - and not rely on the government.

<<It makes much more sense to breed our own than use the mass immigration of Third World peasants who cannot speak the language, and don't share our beliefs.>>

Well you can't pick and choose with a baby bonus. Our own does include people who have come here from overseas and cannot speak the language etc.

Yuyutsu,

<<I am with you, Nathan: people should be fined for having babies, not rewarded!>>

I wouldn't want fines, but I think people should have a child out of reasons of love and not be enticed into children they don't really want. I don't think we should be paying people to increase an already overpopulated planet.

I would also hate to find out later on in my life my parents only had me due to a baby bonus being put in place. I was always in ripped clothing, I had little food each day and hardly had any doctors appointments. I felt sick every day and uncared for. Not a nice experience.
Posted by NathanJ, Monday, 4 August 2025 10:21:10 PM
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Dear Nathan,

Well I do not support direct fines either, only indirect fines when parents will have to finance all child-related expenses from their own pocket.

Give a fair advance notice to accommodate for those already conceived, but for any baby born afterwards, no Medicare, no free schooling, no subsidised childcare, no tax rebates, etc.

Even if parents love to have a child, having more people is a luxury this planet cannot afford until human population is drastically reduced.

For those concerned locally about aging Australian population, first, those presently involved with childcare and school-teaching can move into aged-care, and second, there are plenty of dedicated young people in and around Asia who are eager to come to Australia and care for the elderly in order to support their starving families at home. They don't even require extra housing because they are more than happy to just have one room in the home of their elderly client.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 4 August 2025 11:46:18 PM
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