Massive trade deal between the US and the EU overnight.

The US will have a baseline tariff on EU imports of 15%. The EU tariffs on US imports will be 0%. The EU will buy $750 billion in energy products from the US and will invest an additional $600 billon in the US in addition to what had already been announced. Additionally the EU will purchase hundreds of billions in armaments as they move to fulfill their promise to Trump to increase defence spending to 5% of GDP.

Clearly embarrassed at how much they'd given in to Trump the EU is now saying that the whole thing was about eliminating the EU-US trade deficit. Funnily, that's what Trump's been saying for a decade.

I suspect the usual suspects will incoherently spin this as a defeat for Trump.

No part went over my head, mhaze.

//They arrive, get picked up and immediately sent back. Which part ... went over your head?//

I acknowledged the stat and welcomed it. But again, thousands are still crossing illegally each month. You claimed the “invasion” was “basically finished.” Your own CBP source shows 8,725 people still crossing between ports in May.

A “finished” invasion doesn’t produce that number. You’re redefining success as “we caught them,” not “they stopped coming.”

//93.5% of the USAID functions have been discontinued...//

If 93.5% of functions were cut, cite a source. The ABC article you linked says no such thing. It reports the agency was shuttered and replaced with a bureau, not that nearly all functions ceased.

//Clinging to your error by pretending Trump failed to close USAID is revealing.//

You’re misrepresenting me. I never framed USAID’s continuation as a failure. In fact, I even asked why that would be a good thing.

What I said was that it wasn’t “finished,” as you claimed. And your own source confirms that: USAID’s functions were folded into a renamed bureau, not scrapped.

The only “error” here was your overstatement.

//As to NATO, we're back to your desperate attempts to say Trump failed to deliver because the policy takes several years to implement.//

Heh, "desperate." I like that.

I simply said it hasn’t happened yet. You implied success by citing a 2035 target. You want a 10-year grace period for Trump, and yet...

//Look back at how you sought to defend Labor's housing promise...//

...you show no patience for Labor’s housing plan.

//Trump hasn't done anything on DACA... until court processes are finalised.//

So, he hasn’t acted. Thanks, that’s all I said. You can’t blame obstruction for a policy that hasn’t even been introduced.

//But suffering TDS means that logic goes out the window.//

Crying “TDS” is a cop-out. When your claims are contradicted by your own sources - and your counterarguments amount to name-calling and goalpost-shifting - it’s not my logic that’s gone missing.

In fact, "TSD" is starting to look like a bit of a self-own.

You're just redefining what is a Trumpian success to suit your desire to deny the success.

You raised DACA as a failure not me, and now you assert that since Trump didn't promise or do anything about DACA that proves he failed.

Or you redefine stopping the illegal invasion as stopping everyone even trying to get access. But that's not at all what was promised. No illegals are being allowed into the country and those that try are being returned to Mexico. That level of success must be distressing for the TDS crowd.

The EU deal show just how successful Trump's tariff policy is.

The irony here is thick, mhaze.

//You're just redefining what is a Trumpian success to suit your desire to deny the success.//

You began by declaring things were “finished” - invasion stopped, USAID gone, NATO demands met. Now, with each rebuttal, you’re redefining “success” to mean partial implementation, renaming, or not being blocked.

And you accuse me of moving goalposts?

DACA:
I never raised DACA as a failure. You did - by suggesting Trump was being obstructed. I pointed out he hasn’t acted on it this term, which makes the obstruction excuse hollow. Your new claim - that he never promised to act until court cases were resolved - confirms exactly that. So there was no action to block.

My point stands. You’ve just conceded it while trying to spin it as a win.

Immigration:
First it was “invasion basically finished.” Now it’s: well, they’re still coming, but we’re catching them. That’s a change in definition. A finished invasion doesn’t involve 8,725 people crossing in a single month. Your framing has shifted from “it’s over” to “we’re managing it better.” Fine - that’s progress. But don’t pretend the original claim still holds.

USAID:
You claimed it was “finished.” I showed your own source says it was restructured. You now argue most of it was cut - fine, but that’s not finished. If functions continue, it wasn’t abolished. Again, you’ve changed the claim while acting like you haven’t.

That’s spin.

And now, instead of citing a source, you throw in “homosexual comics for Colombians” - which, aside from being an odd rhetorical flourish, isn’t evidence. It’s just another distraction.

NATO:
You cited a 2035 target, not compliance. So when I said there’s no 5% spending now, I was right. You want a 10-year grace period for Trump, but mock Labor’s 5-year housing plan. That’s not consistency, that’s partisan elasticity.

So no - I’m not redefining success. I’m holding your definitions up to the light. They’re the ones changing shape.

Illegal immigration - zero illegals are now entering the US. Done.

USAID - the dept is gone. Done.

DACA - Trump hasn't tried to close it off so saying he's blocked is wishful thinking. Done.

Tariffs - massive victories over the EU, China, even little Australia. Without the predicted (do you now know what a prediction is?) increase in inflation. Done.

NATO - now beginning to adhere to the Trump demand that they increase defence spending. Done.

(Just on the comparison to Labor's housing policy.... "mock Labor’s 5-year housing plan". I didn't. I support it. Go back and read the thread. I just used it to highlight your hypocrisy. Oh Labor has a policy that will be finalised in the future says JD - genuflect, swoon. Trump has a policy that will be finalised in the future - what a failure. Hypocrisy writ large).

This is getting increasingly embarrassing to watch, mhaze.

//Illegal immigration - zero illegals are now entering the US. Done.//

Your own CBP source says 8,725 crossed illegally between ports in May 2025. You previously acknowledged this and then redefined success as “they're caught and returned.” Now you’re back to pretending they’re not entering at all?

Not done.

//USAID - the dept is gone. Done.//

Once again, the department was renamed and restructured under the State Department. The same article you linked confirms this. If its programs continue under a new bureau, it wasn’t “gone” - it was moved. You’re just re-labelling continuity as closure.

Not done.

//DACA - Trump hasn't tried to close it off so saying he's blocked is wishful thinking. Done.//

Exactly. That was my point. You previously claimed courts were blocking Trump’s plans - but here you admit no plan was attempted. So what obstruction? You’ve just confirmed there’s been no action to block.

Nothing to "done."

//Tariffs - massive victories over the EU, China, even little Australia. Without the predicted (do you now know what a prediction is?) increase in inflation. Done.//

No one said inflation would be permanently high. The New York Fed, Brookings, and others documented significant initial inflation from tariffs in construction, agriculture, and consumer goods. Claiming victory now is like denying a drought ever happened because it rained last week.

No victory.

//NATO - now beginning to adhere to the Trump demand that they increase defence spending. Done.//

“Beginning” is not “done.” They agreed to a 2035 target. There’s no 5% compliance today. So again, you’re declaring a future intention as a completed policy. That’s not how time works.

Not done.

//I just used [Labor's housing policy] to highlight your hypocrisy.//

No, I'm happy for both to take time - but neither are "done." That was the point all along. There has been no hypocrisy on my part.

You're declaring victory like a child shouting “I'm the King of the castle!” from a ditch.