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Is The Aged Pension Unsustainable Long Term

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Can anyone see where Australia is heading under Labor ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 27 June 2025 10:28:04 AM
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Silence speaks volumes alright !
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 29 June 2025 10:28:19 AM
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Indy, I'm in NZ, short and sweet, I don't favour salary sacrifice, but I'm all in favour of old fart sacrifice. $40k a year you must be kidding!
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 29 June 2025 12:11:59 PM
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Indyvidual,

If you took the silence as vindication of your claim that Labor is taking us down the same path as Latin American countries, I’m happy to end it.

Watching a Gloria Alvarez video and thinking it describes modern Australia is like reading Lord of the Flies and assuming that’s what happens at every scout camp.

The kind of “socialism” Alvarez critiques - authoritarian regimes with centralised economies, expropriation, and crushed freedoms - has nothing in common with Australia under Labor.

- Nobody is nationalising industries.
- Private property isn’t being seized.
- The private sector still dominates every major part of the economy.
- You’re free to criticise the government, vote them out, and keep your assets.

Labor’s policies - energy rebates, Medicare incentives, or a modest tax on super balances over $3 million - are not socialism. They’re centre-left, market-compatible reforms found in every modern capitalist democracy. The same kind you’ll see in Canada, Germany, or the UK - not Venezuela or Cuba.

If any redistribution is “socialism” in your book, then by that standard we’ve been a socialist country since the 1940s - under both Labor and the Coalition.

You’re welcome to oppose Labor’s policies. Just don’t pretend we’re halfway to Chavez. That’s not analysis - it’s theatre.
Posted by John Daysh, Sunday, 29 June 2025 2:07:21 PM
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That’s not analysis - it’s theatre.
John Daysh,
It'd pay you to view it as training for what's developing rather than dismiss it as theatre !
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 29 June 2025 8:44:31 PM
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Indyvidual,

Vague warnings about what’s “developing” aren’t an argument. If you think Australia is genuinely heading for Venezuelan-style collapse, then name the policies you think will get us there. Be specific.

Gloria Alvarez’s video critiques failed regimes that bear no resemblance to modern Australia - no industry nationalisation, no expropriations, no suppression of dissent. So unless “what’s developing” includes a functioning democracy with private healthcare, free press, and a stock market, you might need a more convincing prophecy.

Otherwise, yes - it’s still theatre.
Posted by John Daysh, Sunday, 29 June 2025 9:05:08 PM
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