Indyvidual,

You’ve gone from “we’re headed for socialism” to “Labor’s not following its policies” to now claiming the government is secretly implementing an Islamist takeover.

And I’m the one being predictable?

You’re asking me to take seriously a list that includes:

- A misrepresented tax proposal
(the unrealised capital gains idea isn’t Labor policy - it was floated in a consultation paper by Treasury, and publicly ruled out)

- An interview clip you haven't even summarised
(Peter Stefanovic asked hard questions to which Albanese gave political answers - welcome to democracy)

- And a string of loaded hypotheticals about Muslim migrants, economic sabotage, and secret agendas that were “never promised” - as though that’s evidence.

Here’s the problem:
You’re trying to paint Labor as both incompetent and dangerously strategic. You can’t have it both ways. Either they’re chaotic and floundering - or they’re Machiavellian geniuses playing 4D chess. Pick one.

You keep calling for “thinking,” but what you’re really asking for is agreement without evidence. I’ve already said I’m not here to defend every policy - just to push back when wild claims are made without facts to back them.

If you’ve got a genuine example of policy-driven harm, I’ll hear you out. But “they didn’t promise this” is not the smoking gun you think it is.

Albanese gave political answers - welcome to democracy)
John Daysh,
No, evasion & Dictatorship conduct !

Indyvidual,

If “giving political answers” is now “dictatorship conduct,” then I’m afraid you don’t understand either term.

- Evasion is annoying.
- Dictatorship is imprisonment for dissent, suppression of media, and violence against opposition.

Conflating the two doesn’t make your argument stronger. It makes it unserious.

Coming from a far right extremists perspective, as in the Australian context, Indy has a paranoid hatred of all things Labor, he will say that anything that can be construed as "socialist" is to loathed and rejected. Of course that hatred and rejection does not extend to any socialist benefits dear old Indy receives, aged welfare, free medical, and other lurks and perks, sounds very Venezuelan to me, he has been getting these benefits since the year dot when he arrived on a leaky boat as a refugee, Indy has been a teat sucker of social benefits ever since.

John Daysh & Paul1405,
I'm afraid you two really aren't as clever & enlightened as you convinced you are. So, stop having yourselves on.
There's sufficient funding for the old age pension in the mechanism put in place. The pension was set up to provide for the working class as the workers literally paid in advance. The reason why the middle class is now in panic mode is the fact that a huge part of the pension funds has gradually been used on those who never contributed or contributed only very little. This syphoning from the pension funds needs to be stopped so the scheme can continue.
Middle Class earns at the rate it is spending & this chasing of its own tail is its failure.
I just spoke with a friend in Europe & they're now in the midst of this failure that came about from funding the many non-contributors from the funds of the contributors & the contributors are now realising that they in fact didn't contribute enough. Pretty much the same that's happening in Australia now !
Of course, the "experts' are now panicking too & the only way out in their confused minds is to raise the pension age so the coffers are kept topped up. The problem there is that these same type of "experts" failed to foresee the life expectancy going up & still don't see that the numbers of non-producers are not just keeping pace, they're literally out-pacing the producers. As far as I can see, the only solution is to lower high income & tax it the same as low income ! Not a popular suggestion but it does guarantee a solution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf0SoSoywQc
John Daysh & Paul1405,
How do you think the above will impact on Pension & Superannuation ?