Thanks for clarifying, Indyvidual.

So, the current Labor government is managing things “atrociously” by breaking some of their promises, drifting on policy, and are weak on their follow-through?

Fair enough - those are legitimate governance criticisms, and I’m not here to defend every decision this government has made. But let’s be clear:

That’s not socialism. That’s mismanagement.

And ironically, you’re now saying Labor isn’t even implementing its policies - which directly contradicts your original claim that they’re enacting a socialist agenda that’s taking us to Venezuela.

So which is it? Is the danger in what they’re doing - or in what they’re NOT doing?

Because right now, you’ve walked back your original claim and replaced it with a mood of frustration. And while I understand the frustration, it’s still not evidence.

So which is it? Is the danger in what they’re doing - or in what they’re NOT doing?
John Daysh,
An un-indoctrinated mind will know that it is both !

Have a look at this video as an example. Don't try so hard to make yourself feel more knowledgeable or wise, look around to see what's going on ! Once you open your mind you'll be a person of substance rather than a parrot for the useless intellectual outfits !

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=4213572425531555

Indyvidual,

Thanks for the link. The video of someone diving through a raft of seaweed was indeed interesting.

If it's meant to be a metaphor for your argument - murky, directionless, and full of kelp - then it might be the most accurate thing you’ve posted yet.

I’m still open to seeing real evidence, but unless your next link contains something more substantial than aquatic vegetation, I’ll assume we’re done here.

Ooops, cut & paste gone wrong :-)
John Daysh,
Try again. I hope that finally sinks in regarding policies & Labor policies in particular.!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJUIqsDeMdE

Indyvidual,

Thanks for the corrected link. I’ve watched the video and, as I had expected with Malcolm Roberts, it’s more of a broad populist tirade than a coherent policy critique.

There are some valid concerns buried in Roberts' speech, like multinational tax avoidance and bracket creep, but these issues predate this government and often involve both major parties.

More to the point, it still doesn’t support your original claim that Labor is steering Australia toward Venezuelan-style socialism. What it does offer is a long list of vague frustrations about tax - many of which are inflated, contradictory, or just outdated.

For example, Roberts:

- quotes decades-old data and unnamed newspaper articles as evidence

- claims people are taxed 68% of their income, and later says that bread has a 100% tax rate, and that petrol is taxed at 230% - none of which he defines clearly

- adds UN conspiracies, state-federal finger-pointing, and a grab bag of every grievance since the Howard years

- and then somehow blames it all on the current government, even though these structural issues have persisted under both sides.

If the claim now is that Australia’s tax system is inefficient or poorly designed, that’s a conversation worth having. But it’s not evidence of socialism, collapse, or any unique failure of the Albanese government.

I’m happy to keep discussing real issues, but this is still just mood presented as prophecy.

And Malcolm Roberts blaming the current Labor government for things that either aren't happening or pre-date them certainly isn't evidence - even if he did say it all in front of the Senate.

John Daysh,
You're so predictable that it takes all the fun out of it. You're asking for unwritten policies from an organisation that has cemented-in incompetence Are you really so thick as to believe they'd make official what they're actually doing ?
Just look at the unrealised capital gain plan. Watch the Albo interview with Peter Stefanovic but then again, there's no way your blinkered observation tactics would allow you admit to it anyway.
Did Albo promise before the elections that he was planning to flood Australia with Muslim migrants whose only focus is to make Australia an islamic Nation ? Or, did you hear him promise that he'd run the economy as bad as it is now ? Did you hear him promise Bowen's billions wastage ?
Start thinking would be a valid advise however, you sound more like being part of the problem than willing to find solutions !