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Australia: Defenceless and Helpless

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I know that the Liberal Party Opposition has been shaken to its core by its election drubbing. But it now has to get on with what it is supposed to be doing - opposing; not sitting back and waiting three years for the electorate to get sick of Labor.

The only squeak we have heard from them so far is Ted O’Brien's offer to help the Socialists out with screwing people with ‘too much’ superannuation, on the condition that they lay off capital gains tax. Both of these Socialist money grabs are vile, and should be OPPOSED.

The Liberals really must make amends for Peter Dutton's cowardly betrayal of the right side of politics if they want to survive at all.

What other deals will these wet drongos do with the Socialists to get a slightly better result? They are deadly quiet on defence.

Bipartisanship, except in very rare circumstances is bullsh.t; Oppositions are there to oppose.

Albanese has put rare and important bipartisanship to sleep with his betrayal of the US alliance and the historic friendship towards Israel.

Unless the Liberals pull their fingers out, a Socialists/Communist one party system is a monty for Australia.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 6 June 2025 9:19:20 AM
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Even though it was thought by some that, given the parlous state of security in the region, the 2025 election would be a khaki election, defence was barely mentioned in the campaign. Both members of the uniparty were more interested in outbidding each other with bribes to elect them. It was all about their cushy jobs.

The Liberals didn't try to convince us that they were more serious about defence than the government. Neither crowd had anything to offer voters concerned about defence. Laughingly, the government rested on its laurels.

Even the rumours of a possible Russian airbase in Indonesia raised a few eyebrows.

On that particular matter, the Russians have said that they are looking for a satellite launching site close to the equator, so who knows what they might want to set up to protect such a facility: something that could well be a threat. And, remember, Indonesia is in the BRIC alliance, and not a great friend of Australia or the West. Russia is also a member, and the latest Indonesian president is keen for a closer relationship with Russia, a country that mightn't have been the threat to us that China is if the idiotic Albanese told the world that we ‘stood’ with Ukraine against Russia.

China is a rising authoritarian country that wants to change the world order. Anyone not seeing that is a moron or pro-China. The only people who are comfortable with Communist China and its terrible beliefs and actions can only be other Communists.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 12 June 2025 8:15:57 AM
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Peter Jennings, Director of ASPI offers the suggestion that Albanese doesn't involve himself in any detail of the big issues, and defence is not “in front (of his) mind”.

His advice to Albanese is;

. Read a book
. Ensure that AUKUS is on track (Jennings fears that it is not - too much left to bureaucrats)
. Commission a non-political/non-public person from the private sector to investigate and report
. Tell Wong to ensure that China is not undermining us in PNG, and what we need to do there
. Recognise that the ADF is going backwards very quickly because of stargazing into the future
. The consequences of China taking Taiwan will be truly dire for us and the region
. Put real effort into ADF recruitment
. Get out and talk to defence personnel
. Make an effort to talk to Donald Trump - he plaits his legs to talk to Xi Jinping
. Learn how to deal with America generally

Australia is failing to have a real voice in the region, thanks to Albanese's - and to some extent the previous government’s - stupid pigheadedness and tin ears, and our alliance with the US is not as solid as it used to be. Trump has said, ‘if you don't pay your bills, we won't defend you’. That doesn't apply to us good old Aussies? If the government remains mired in complacency, we might find out
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 12 June 2025 8:18:36 AM
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The book ‘No Higher Priority’ has recommendations for Australia's defence:

. Acquire B-21 bomber. Host US B-21 here
. Expand US Marines here to 16,000
. Bring Japan into ANZUS
. Develop defence and intel with India
. Build force with Pacific Islands
. ADF presence in Cocos, Christmas, Norfolk Islands
. $1 billion Rapid Acquisition Fund
. Restore missile defence procurement
. PM to take charge of fixing ADF crisis
. Get drones
. Cut barriers to non-traditional firms in military production
. Stockpile munitions and war equipment
. Lift performance of Australia’s contribution to global security. Discuss with US
. Raise defence spending 3% of GDP now review regularly
. Develop a homeland defence strategy
. Harden military bases against attack
. Mobilisations plan for for industry
. Make Northern Australia capable of military operations
. Build onshore fuel reserves
. End Chinese lease on Port of Darwin
. Two additional squadrons of F-35 jets
. Ask PNG to accept ADF military bases
. Reduce by a third ADF senior officers and senior public servants in Defence
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 12 June 2025 9:36:22 AM
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Next time you hear Albanese whining about what Australia (meaning him) thinks is a good spend on defence is (barely 2% of GDP, and a pissy little 2.3% by 2033), think about what might happen if we were involved in a war (because China knows how low our spending is, and how unprepared we are).

What effect it would have on Australian civilians, when the spending might suddenly jump to 41% of GDP, as it was at the end of WW2. Shortages. Poverty. Premature deaths.

The population would fall apart, being lovers of the nanny state and free stuff as they are, and lacking the toughness and resilience of Australians of those times.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 12 June 2025 11:08:33 AM
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Spending on militarism is a pointless excise for Australia. I am in favour of real defence spending. Now we have Trump reviewing the ridiculous AUKUS nonsense. That's after the fools in Canberra paid over $770 million with no strings, and no guarantees attached. I thought used car salesmen were shonks, but looks like they are out done by used submarine salesmen. If I was America I would string Australia alone for as long as possible, and milk em' for what they're worth. Australia has form, gave the Frogs $830 million for nothing! That with the recent gift equals the cost of building 100 new primary schools.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 13 June 2025 7:47:44 AM
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