ttbn,

Weird is the Trump Putin bromance. The hawks in the US are incensed by it, but note that Vlad and Xi are allies.

Eighty years ago there weren't nukes. There has never been a war between nuclear armed nations. Ukraine thought its sovereignty would be protected when it gave up its nuclear arsenal. Betrayed by Obama, Biden and Trump.

Hi Fester...
http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/ukraine-nuclear-weapons-and-security-assurances-glance

1994 Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances

"To solidify security commitments to Ukraine, the United States, Russia, and the United Kingdom signed the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances on December 5, 1994. A political agreement in accordance with the principles of the Helsinki Accords, the memorandum included security assurances against the threat or use of force against Ukraine’s territory or political independence. The countries promised to respect the sovereignty and existing borders of Ukraine. Parallel memorandums were signed for Belarus and Kazakhstan as well. In response, Ukraine officially acceded to the NPT as a non-nuclear weapon state on December 5, 1994. That move met the final condition for ratification of START, and on the same day, the five START states-parties exchanged instruments of ratification, bringing the treaty into force."
http://www.securitycouncilreport.org/atf/cf/%7B65BFCF9B-6D27-4E9C-8CD3-CF6E4FF96FF9%7D/s_1994_1399.pdf

What stands out to you here?
'included security assurances against the threat or use of force against Ukraine’s territory or political independence'

* Specifically - 'political independence'

What happened in 2014, and was Ukraine still politically independent?

MUST WATCH: Nov 2013 (pre-Maidan!): Ukraine Deputy has proof of USA staging civil war in Ukraine
http://youtu.be/y9hOl8TuBUM?si=gCwQPfNHQm3yNAwC

Victoria Nuland US has invested $5 billion in Ukraine (USAID)
http://youtu.be/rPVs5VuI8XI

F* the EU: Alleged audio of US diplomat Victoria Nuland swearing
http://youtu.be/L2XNN0Yt6D8

Tell me, after 2014 was Ukraine still politically independent, and if not - then they shouldn't have nukes.
This is about them becoming a vassal state of the west, enlarging NATO borders and Blackrock bankers making a fortune buying the country at pennies on the dollar, but only if Russia doesn't win.

So everyone of us have to pay for it so the money men can get a return on their investment with everyone else funding all financial and military assistance as well the cost as immigrants and loss in global GDP.

Friedrich Merz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Merz
He has served on the boards of numerous companies, including BlackRock Germany.

http://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpw7vllepx7o
German chancellor promises to help Ukraine produce long-range weapons

Its all about the money, have to keep the war going to defend the banksters interests.

'Betrayed by Obama, Biden and Trump.'
- They all played a part in either overthrowing the country and putting the NAZIs in power, rearming it and providing military training to a NATO standard, fighting the separatists, continuing the war, maligning any peace process and providing weapons to fight Russia.

Reds under the beds yellow peril garbage. Stinks of white Australia regressive racism.
This is 2025 not 1950. Albanese is PM not menzies.
Australia needs a DEFENSE force not a help the septics attack force.

Fester

We all know there has never been a nuclear war. What is the point you are trying to make?

Hi AC,

Good to hear from you. Truth be told, I think that the greatest threat Australia faces currently is from windmills and solar panels. All made in China, so maybe that is a communist plot? So poor economically, but I amazed that so many are still sucked in by the con.