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Regulation Growth vs Economic Growth

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Hi Yuyutsu

Muslim Votes Matter, describes itself as an independent, grassroots political organisation dedicated to "promoting the political engagement and voice of Australian Muslims. The group is expected to support candidates who align with its values.

Family First Party; Mission, To build a political movement that will fight for and sustain the social and economic well-being of the nation by promoting family, life, faith, freedom, enterprise and subsidiarity .

Both the above have very strong ties to religions.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 25 May 2025 4:36:57 PM
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ttbn say;

"ridiculous little parties that are usually one-off brain-farts rattling around in the heads of weirdos" YES, and did you not support half a percent Australian Conservative Party run by number one weirdo Corny Banana. More reticently you were encouraging others to vote One Nation, Trumpet of Patriots and The Libertarian Party. Now you tell us they are all weirdoes, what does that make YOU!
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 25 May 2025 4:46:48 PM
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Dear Ttbn,

Yes, we got side-tracked off the topic in discussing First-Past-The-Post.
I definitely oppose FPTP and there is much I could say about it, but that would be outside the confines of this topic - public servants employed to regulate our lives, so going back:

Well my soft heart would not allow me to make 107,000 families hungry, whose bread-winners never obtained any useful skills and therefore had to resort to harassing others with regulations. If these people are cut off dry, then they, their friends and their extended families would certainly fight back tooth and nail to keep their livelihood, and so they will regain power and we will continue to suffer their regulations.

Instead, I would close down their offices and send them to the beach, letting them eat, drink and be merry at tax-payer's expense - getting them off our backs is certainly worth more than their $15 billion salaries (and well, we can also save some by turning off their air-conditioners and converting their office-buildings into residential property).

Seemingly ideological big-talk politics is often no more than just that - a personal financial-survival strategy.

Sometimes we just need to BUY our freedom...
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 25 May 2025 6:34:05 PM
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Yuyutsu

I think you are in parallel existence. I do understand some of what you say. Public servants are ordinary people, but they are putting other people out of work and impoverishing Australia.

If these people were not used to retard the private sector, there would be jobs for them in with the very people they are hindering now. Apart from essential services, there is no place for government in our lives. The way that the Albanese government - our most Left wing ever - is overreaching its responsibilities, interferening in things it knows nothing about - our country will, sooner than later, be just like other countries run by dictatorships.

Already, two or more generations expect free stuff. They expect to be bribed to vote for people who are taking them to the bottom.

Ruining our economy by deindustrialisation, red and green tape and regulations, ridiculous windmills and shiny gee-gaws, when we have the cheapest means of electricity in the ground, is a damn funny way of providing for future generations the commos claim to be looking out for.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 25 May 2025 10:40:46 PM
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On top of rules and regulations, with more taxation, the Albanese socialist regime intends to steal from ‘only a minority of Australians’ to make the rest of us not bother about the theft; but that “minority” is made up by people who do most of the heavy lifting in Australia, pay the most tax, grow our food, manufacture the few things left that aren't imported, provide jobs.

The regime intends to:

. Tax unrealised capital gains in large superannuation funds from July 1st, impacting those who haven’t actually received income.

. Tax Hardworking Australians like farmers, retirees, and small investors who will be forced to sell assets to pay tax on paper gains.

. There will be no inflation-indexed, so more people will be caught in the tax net over time.

. It is argued that the Labor policy will undermine trust in the superannuation system and spare political elites with protected pensions.

. Capital could be pushed offshore, innovation crushed, and end up mirroring failed overseas experiments like Norway’s wealth tax.

Chalmers has unleashed fear, confusion, forced liquidation, and betrayal. And he will quietly rope in more and more Australians each year. There will be catastrophe.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 25 May 2025 10:48:02 PM
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Dear Ttbn,

This is a bit like driving on the road:
You could drive rightly, or you could drive wisely.
You may have the right of way at an intersection and may insist on it, but if the other driver ignores it, or is inattentive, then while you may win your day in court, life wouldn't be as fun with all those broken bones.

If any government proposes to fire public "servants", then those "servants" would riot, and regardless of whatever other political convictions their extended families may otherwise have, they would all join forces to save their aunt/nephew/cousin/etc. from the sack, and in a democracy they will have the numbers to change government and back come all the regulations, in fact they would regulate even more fervently in order to prove that they are needed.

But so long as the salaries keep coming in, they and their families wouldn't mind - they could even vote for you because they like their leisure!

So the realistic choice is between:
1) Paying the "public-servant" salaries and keeping all the regulations and their enforcement intact; or
2) Paying the same salaries but with nobody enforcing regulations as the enforcers would be playing volleyball on the beach.

I certainly prefer the second option!

If you insist on maximising your returns and getting back everything you are fairly being owed, then you will end up with nothing: give some away and you will prosper with the rest - be wise on the road rather than being right and have your bones broken.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 26 May 2025 12:17:34 AM
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