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Voting and reasons

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Dear ttbn,

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The fact remains, as Aristotle said, that though we may be critical of democracy, the case for rule by the many based on the superior wisdom of the multitude “perhaps also involves some truth”.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Monday, 5 May 2025 9:44:05 AM
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ttbn,

May be the "silent majority" were never really there. Maybe they were just the echo of your own beliefs, bouncing back at you by media outlets and online spaces designed to comfort, rather than simply report.

If you spend enough time inside an echo chamber (Sky News, curated Facebook threads, rage-blog punditry) it starts to feel like the whole country agrees with you. But they don’t. And every time that bubble bursts at the ballot box, you’re left wondering how Australia became so unrecognisable.

Outside that chamber, people aren't moaning because they want a dictator or socialism or whatever bogeyman is trending this week. They’re moaning because life’s tough, wages are stagnant, and the world’s changing fast. And when offered the choice between a party feeding that anxiety with conspiracies and culture war tantrums - or one trying, however imperfectly, to govern with steadiness - they chose the latter.

Your bitterness isn’t just about losing. It’s about the growing realisation that your generation doesn’t set the tone anymore, and your worldview doesn’t have the following you were told it did.

So when you mock younger generations and laugh that they’ll “suffer” for it, it doesn’t make you look wise or defiant. It makes you look like someone who climbed the ladder, kicked it away, and now cheers at the thought of others falling.
Posted by John Daysh, Monday, 5 May 2025 10:30:44 AM
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Dear Ttbn,

«and they hope that they will soon be relieved of the inconvenience of having to vote.»

Indeed an inconvenience when we all know that voting makes no difference, that one of the twins, either Tweedledum or Tweedledee, will rule over us anyway.

In theory we just voted for parliament which is the legislative council, in order to determine the laws we are forced to live under, which affect us daily, but in practice when both major parties are not disputing these laws, they ask us instead to vote as to who between the two of them manages their state better:

Well, why are they asking for my advice? I am not an expert on state-management, that is none of my business really because as far as I am concerned there better be no state at all!

No, I don't want to see this country turning more like Russia or China - I do care a lot about the laws that affect my life, but since I cannot influence them anyway, it is best if I am left out of it all.

Given the undemocratic nature of the Australian electoral system, any major party that would announce that "if you vote for us then this will be the last elections you will ever have to participate in", would win a great landslide victory!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 5 May 2025 12:25:43 PM
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Just a quick note to the usual arseholes offended by, and frightened of, opinions they disagree with - I have no interest whatsoever in your opinions of my own opinions. And, tearing into me will not make you less dumb than you all are.

Had the weak Dutton, or whoever was pulling his strings, undertaken to dump Net Zero, and get out of the Paris Agreement, instead of banging on about nuclear power, indicating that he agreed with the loony Left that coal is bad and the CO2 scam is real, he would have fared better than he did.

One of these days, we might get politicians who want to do what is right for Australia, not what is right for their chances of getting elected. If we can get people like that, they will most certainly be elected.

In the meantime, none of the self-interested scum are worth voting for. Not that the arseholes referred to - the ones who spend most of their very limited abilities attacking other posters instead of dealing with the topics - deserve any better than what we are stuck with, and what they stupidly voted for.

In the meantime, you arseholes: Paul 1405, Banjo Patterson, John Daysh and Yuyutsu, who regularly attack me (and others) personally, go f..k yourselves, you small-minded ignoramuses. You have never risen above snotty-nosed preschool bully status.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 5 May 2025 2:16:58 PM
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Dear Ttbn,

«Paul 1405, Banjo Patterson, John Daysh and Yuyutsu, who regularly attack me (and others) personally»

I actually agreed with you - why yes, most Australians would indeed be happy to be relieved of the inconvenience of having to vote.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 5 May 2025 2:40:33 PM
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ttbn,

I cannot understand your thinking. You are always commenting on the uniparty, stupid people and what not, so why such disappointment with an outcome you foresaw but have no control over. That's democracy.

My main concern is with the destructive pursuit of wind and solar, but despite having no control of the outcome as with everyone else here, I see no point in getting too upset as I believe the problem to be self limiting. All the hype I hear has no substance when I look at the IEA country stats and observe the incredibly slow pace of development. Projects here would not be possible without the huge handouts, and even with them the economics are very marginal once the generating capacity starts to exceed the average demand, which is why development is drying up.

The French roll out of nuclear was six times faster half a century ago than the wind and solar roll out is currently. The thought of production line smrs in the near future leads me to believe that the rate of the French roll out will be exceeded. Australia has the opportunity to advance instead of being impoverished with Chinese solar panels and wind turbines.

https://www.belfercenter.org/research-analysis/new-nuclear-age-united-states
Posted by Fester, Monday, 5 May 2025 4:55:34 PM
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