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White House Releases Results of Trump’s 2025 Medical Checkup

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Trump had a medical checkup on Friday, 11 April 2025, at the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center located in Bethesda, Maryland (about 14 km from Washington), and was judged fit for service.

It was reported he even scored 30 out of 30 on a Montreal Cognitive Assessment exam.

The Montreal Cognitive Assessment is a widely used screening tool designed to detect mild cognitive impairment and early signs of dementia. It assesses various cognitive domains, including attention, memory, language, and executive functions. The test consists of 30 questions and takes about 10 minutes to complete. It is particularly effective in identifying individuals at risk for conditions such as Alzheimer's disease and Parkinson's disease. It has been validated for use in various clinical settings and is recognized for its sensitivity in detecting cognitive decline.

But Trump's niece, Mary Trump, a clinical psychologist, describes her uncle’s mental health in quite different terms :

« This is a person who has untreated psychiatric disorders, and any untreated disorder of any kind worsens over time as long as it remains untreated. So, it makes perfect sense that somebody who is as unhealthy as he is who is under the extraordinary amount of stress he's under would have a harder time holding it together cognitively »

Dr. Elisabeth Zoffmann, a forensic psychiatrist and an associate clinical professor of forensic and general psychiatry at the University of British Columbia, indicates that her clinical experience and observance of Trump are congruent with the diagnostic criteria for behavioral variant frontotemporal dementia.

She cautions, however, that her observations, combined with those of other experts, should lead to a thorough assessment by a neuropsychiatrist expert in the diagnosis and management of neurodegenerative disorders.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Tuesday, 15 April 2025 11:57:49 PM
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Ya gotta laugh. The WhiteHouse was occupied for four years by a shell of a man who was clearly dementia affected and getting progressively worse. Now that Biden's term is over all sorts of his erstwhile supporters are coming out admitting that he was not with it and most of the time the US presidency was being run by sycophants or family.

Yet at the time, the efforts by the legacy media and TDS crowd to prop up Biden and deny his infirmities were legion. Remember the way the media excoriated the right for publishing video of Biden's failings by denouncing such videos as deep fakes. Right up to the moment the truth could no longer be denied (ie the Biden/Trump debate) anyone who pronounced on Biden's dementia was denounced. And any attempts at diagnosis from afar was decried as unethical.

But now times have changed. Wonder why?

Have you ever heard of the Goldwatee Rule. “It is unethical for a psychiatrist to offer a professional opinion unless he or she has conducted an examination and has been granted proper authorization for such a statement.” But TDS means never having to live by the rules.

Trump is as sharp as an 80 yr old can be. A marvel of the attributes of the Big Mac and Diet Pepsi.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 16 April 2025 2:29:14 PM
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mhaze,

There are key differences between Trump and Biden that discredit your comparison.

First, many of Biden’s own supporters openly acknowledged concerns about his age and visible frailty. That conversation was happening - even within Democratic circles. Contrast that with Trump’s base, which refuses to entertain the possibility of cognitive or psychological issues and treats even the suggestion as heresy. That’s not consistency - it’s denial.

Second, the nature of the concerns is completely different. Biden’s gaffes were mostly benign and never suggested a break from reality. Trump, on the other hand, has displayed long-standing patterns of behaviour that raise far more serious red flags: grandiosity, paranoia, pathological lying, erratic speech, obsession with personal loyalty, and a disturbing attraction to authoritarianism. These aren’t slips of the tongue - they're sustained traits with serious implications.

As for the Goldwater Rule: it prohibits formal diagnoses of public figures without direct evaluation. It does not prohibit professionals from raising red flags based on observable behaviour - especially when clearly qualified as non-diagnostic, which is exactly what Dr. Zoffmann did. Meanwhile, many of Trump’s defenders were perfectly comfortable declaring Biden demented based on edited YouTube clips, without a whisper of concern for ethical standards. So if there's a double standard here, it runs the other way.

Finally, let’s not pretend a perfect score on a 10-minute screening tool like the MoCA proves much of anything. It’s designed to catch early dementia - not assess character, emotional regulation, or judgment - areas where Trump’s long public record speaks volumes. Apparently, though, only the early stages of dementia are a concern.

Wonder why?

If your definition of “fit for office” begins and ends with drawing a clock and remembering five words, then sure - he passes. But if we’re concerned with stability, honesty, and leadership temperament, the MoCA tells us nothing. And pretending it does is just a way to avoid confronting what’s been in plain sight for years.
Posted by John Daysh, Wednesday, 16 April 2025 4:21:09 PM
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" That conversation was happening - even within Democratic circles. "

If you say so. The fact however is that his problems were being denied right up to the point that they could no longer be denied. Only now do his supporters admit that long before that he had clocked out.

Obviously since Trump says things that people like you disagree with he must be cogitatively impaired. That's the level of 'thought' ( for want of a better word) that goes into this.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 16 April 2025 4:44:28 PM
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mhaze,

You’ve sidestepped the actual argument and mischaracterised the reason I raised concerns about Trump’s cognitive state - despite the fact that I gave you a clear list of troubling, long-standing behaviours. This isn’t about disagreeing with what he says. It’s about how he says it, how often he lies, how erratically he speaks, and how deeply detached from reality he often appears.

These aren’t policy disagreements. They’re red flags.

You also brushed past the actual comparison. The point wasn’t that every Democrat openly criticised Biden - it’s that many did, and more importantly, they could. Biden’s age and fitness were discussed regularly across left-leaning media, and by his own supporters. There was no loyalty test. No silencing of concerns. People could acknowledge limitations and still support him.

That’s not the case with Trump. The moment someone even suggests he may not be mentally or emotionally fit, they’re cast as disloyal or accused of having “TDS.” That’s not reasoned support. That’s reflexive denial.

And finally - yes, the MoCA is a legitimate tool for screening early-stage dementia. But it’s not a measure of character, emotional regulation, or sound judgment. It doesn’t disprove the concerns I raised. At best, it tells us he’s likely not in cognitive decline of the sort the test was designed to detect. But the traits in question - paranoia, impulsivity, grandiosity, detachment from reality - aren’t things the MoCA even tests for.

So again, you haven’t addressed the concerns. You’ve misrepresented them, waved away observable patterns, and then accused others of being unserious - all while refusing to engage with the substance of what was actually said.
Posted by John Daysh, Wednesday, 16 April 2025 5:48:21 PM
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"As for the Goldwater Rule:"

That's just wrong. Do you know who Goldwater was? The rule was designed specifically to cover the type of things these people are doing. Now its true that there's nothing to stop them doing it but they are breaking their professional rules of conduct by doing so. If you want to place faith who have so little regard for their profession that they are prepared to ignore clear rules, well that's on you.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 17 April 2025 7:09:59 AM
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