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Presidential immunity breeds presidential irresponsibility
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You’re doing it again - framing a centuries-old tension between the branches of government as if nothing’s changed, and pretending Trump’s approach is identical because “the system” hasn’t changed. That’s like saying shouting in someone’s face is no different than a disagreement, because both involve speaking. It ignores the how, which is exactly what we’ve been talking about all along.
As for Trump demanding personal loyalty - there’s ample evidence. He asked Comey for it directly (“I need loyalty, I expect loyalty”), publicly humiliated Jeff Sessions for recusing himself, and fired officials he deemed insufficiently loyal - not unlawful, but certainly not a president merely seeking lawful compliance from the executive branch. This isn’t some wild theory - it’s a well-documented pattern.
If you're going to keep claiming that nothing here is unusual, at least acknowledge the difference between constitutional tension and using the machinery of state to enforce personal allegiance.