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Presidential immunity breeds presidential irresponsibility
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Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 22 March 2025 12:26:14 PM
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mhaze,
You’re still missing the point - deliberately, I suspect. No one is shocked that presidents clash with courts. Trump doesn’t just clash, though, he personally vilifies judges, demands loyalty from legal officials, publicly undermines the legitimacy of the judiciary, and routinely frames any legal check as an act of persecution. These aren’t standard presidential behaviors - they are the pathologically antisocial acts of a person how has a documented history treating institutions as enemies unless they serve his personal interests. What further sets Trump apart is not just that he engages in these acts, but the frequency, brazenness, and totalising way in which he does so. It demonstrates that his view of power is one that is transactional, self-serving, and fundamentally hostile to accountability. Calling that critique “TDS” isn’t just a dodge - it’s a rhetorical cop-out. Dismissing criticism of Trump as "TDS" is nothing more than a means to avoid engaging with the substance of it by writing it off as irrational hatred. It’s a tactic designed to shut down discussion, not participate in it. And, ironically, it requires its own kind of blind loyalty: the assumption that any negative judgment of Trump must come from emotional bias, never evidence or reason. That’s not debate - that’s deflection by slogan. And the idea that Trump’s actions can’t be meaningfully examined unless we judge them only in the context of what past presidents have done? That’s not a defense - it’s just a way of shielding your words of support for Trump by attempting to render all criticism pointless. If every norm-breaking move can be brushed aside as “just politics” or “nothing new,” then we’re left with no standard at all. You’re not defending Trump - you’re insulating him. And you’re doing it by pretending that every boundary he pushes was never really a boundary to begin with. Posted by John Daysh, Saturday, 22 March 2025 1:08:47 PM
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"These aren’t standard presidential behaviors "
Clearly you have very little understanding of presidential history vis a vis the judicial branch. Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 22 March 2025 5:12:23 PM
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And Russian...
The last time they had NAZIs on there doorstep they lost 27 million people putting an end to it. It's as stupid as Trump thinking he can pressure the houty. They consider it an honour to die fighting the oppressors. - And you can't beat that mentality. US sends a carrier fleet, attacks houthis, Houthis send 100 decoy drones at said carrier fleet. US expands all missiles (requires 2 for each target) at a million plus missile, which are in short supply. US fleet leaves for port requiring resupply, or gets sank. Houthis continue firing hypersonics at Israel because they're withholding aid from the Palestinians. Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 22 March 2025 7:58:01 PM
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mhaze,
You’ve already invoked FDR, and we addressed the inadequacy of that situation. If you’re sitting on other examples of presidents who openly vilified judges, demanded personal loyalty from legal officials, and persistently framed legal checks as partisan attacks, feel free to name them. There must be an abundance of examples you could cite since you've suggested that this sort of behaviour is somewhat par for the course. Or is this just a bit of hand-waving about history as a means to avoid engaging with the actual critique? Because unless you can back up the claim that this kind of conduct is typical presidential behavior, then you're not drawing on historical insight - you’re just trying to blur the lines so anything can be excused. Posted by John Daysh, Saturday, 22 March 2025 10:34:34 PM
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Wow, the plot thickens.
If I said (based on known facts) that War on Terror were Netanyahus wars and based on the 'Clean Break' policy paper, as well as the fact neoconservatives are Pro-Israel and Jewish, as well as the fact that this is an unfinished plan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm General Wesley Clark: The US will attack 7 countries in 5 years http://youtu.be/nUCwCgthp_E Last on list: Iran. Well it seems the war against Russia which was provoked by the west has some similarities... Reality Check number 2. * This one's the absolute jackpot. ^WATCH: Why THEY hate Putin, why THEY want YOU to hate Putin? He kicked THEM out of RUS. No more plundering. http://youtu.be/v_nEBT-uk8c The Fall of Russia’s Oligarchs Under Putin I SLICE HISTORY | FULL DOCUMENTARY http://youtu.be/8SpRbQDLcQc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Cherney 'Cherney grew up in Tashkent, Uzbek SSR, in an Ashkenazi Jewish family.' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Gusinsky 'Gusinsky was born into a Jewish family in Moscow on 6 October 1952.' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Berezovsky_(businessman) 'Boris Abramovich Berezovsky was born in 1946, in Moscow, to Abram Markovich Berezovsky (1911–1979),[28] an Ashkenazi Jewish civil engineer in construction works.' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Khodorkovsky 'Khodorkovsky's parents, Boris and Marina Khodorkovsky, were engineers at a factory making measuring instruments in Moscow. Khodorkovsky's father was Jewish, and his mother was Orthodox Christian.' 'In 2001, Khodorkovsky founded Open Russia, a reform-minded organization intending to "build and strengthen civil society" in the country. In October 2003, he was arrested by Russian authorities and charged with fraud. The government of President Vladimir Putin then froze shares of Yukos shortly thereafter on tax charges.' Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 22 March 2025 10:38:02 PM
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Delusional West's Ultimatum to Putin.
http://youtu.be/4iGuBxUg3-E