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Donald Trump Day One.

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Like Hitler and Mussolini before him Donald Trump is a far right nationalist. Just as the respective two were intent on returning their "fallen" nations to their rightful place of "greatness" Trump is, according to him, going to; "Make America great again". These three have much in common, all had "enemies" both from within their boarders and from without, Hitler and Mussolini targeted Jews and other minorities, Mussolini even targeted Ethiopians, Trump is targeting Mexicans and others, who are seen as unworthy to share in his new "American Greatness" that only he, Donald Trump, can deliver.

Hitler surrounded himself with his famous inner sanctum of loyalists, to which he had doled out privileged positions, and charged them with responsibilities of implementing the grand new order, Trump has done the same, people like the quasi-Nazi saluting Elon Musk. For the old pair there were enemies without, the Soviet Union with its Communism, for Trump its China and its Communist asperations. There are many more similarities, but you be the judge.

Just as the conservatives in the Reichstag in Berlin believed on day one they could control this new demagogue, the conservatives in the Capitol Building in Washington, believe the same thing. History proved otherwise, is history about to repeat itself?
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 22 January 2025 4:05:17 AM
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Paul telling us about history is like my budgie telling us about nuclear fission.

BTW both Hitler and Mussolini were socialists. Even people as deranged as Paul couldn't make the case for Trump being socialist.

" people like the quasi-Nazi saluting Elon Musk.."
http://tiny.cc/pvu6001

But its different when they do it, isn't it Paul?

Now to join the real world....Trump Day1...

* Trump closes the southern border
* Withdraws from the Paris Climate accord
* withdraws from WHO.
* releases the J6 political prisoners
* begins the process of re-establishing US fuel dominance
* begins the process of looking into the FBI/DOJ corruption over the past 4 years
* formalised the DOGE process
* froze all new federal regulations and began process of identifying regulations that add to inflation
* ended federal censorship

And that was all before dinner.

Oh BTW....ceasefire.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 22 January 2025 8:20:58 AM
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All that glitters is not gold
Often have we heard that told
Many a demagogue his life hath sold
And others marched into his fold

Gilded tombs we see as bold
But their insides are dark and cold
So be careful what you see
And let the Trumpster simply be

(Adapted from Shakespeare).
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 22 January 2025 8:45:12 AM
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Oh... I forgot to mention my favourite EO from yesterday...

All 51 traitors who signed the letter claiming the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation have had their security clearances revoked. A little bit of justice for a betrayal of their oaths and duty.

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BTW....ceasefire
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 22 January 2025 9:15:30 AM
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Dear Paul,

Donald Trump has now been inaugurated as US President.
We won't see what that means until after his term ends.
And hopefully it will,
Being an optimistic person, I'm hoping that things will
not be all that bad. That the US Constitution will protect
America's democracy.

But we shall have to wait and see.

In the meantime - I'm glad I live in Australia.

I wonder if any of our political leaders will in future
try to surround themselves with dedicated loyalists
and family members?
It may be a trend that will spread around the world?

After all - in politics:

It's not about making a difference
Or building a career,
It's about blowing the Trumpet
And shouting - - "Hear, Hear!"
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 22 January 2025 1:11:06 PM
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Elon Musk's Nazi salute?

Bernard Keane writes:

" Well it's a Nazi salute. according to historians, according
to antisemites and Nazi's themselves and according to Israeli
newspapers. But what do they know?"

"What do media outlets and groups censoring themselves tell
us beyond how cowed they are by a newly installed president
hellbent on revenge".

"It's all part and parcel of the MACA movement's intense
fact aversion and widespead resistance to observing the truth".

"America's first pump and dump president".
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 22 January 2025 1:35:30 PM
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"Bernard Keane writes:"

Bernard Keane, who hasn't seen a left wing trope he wouldn't rapidly fall for (oh wait, no wonder you like him) straight up misrepresents in the article you failed to link - wonder why?.

Musk didn't say “You have said the actual truth,” about an antisemitic post...he said it about a post criticising an antisemitic post.

But as usual with Foxy....facts don't matter.

And, sadly, that was the least incorrect part of the article. Elsewhere he says historians back the claim and links to an article written LAST Year. Did you even read the article you relied on Foxy or doesn't the truth matter to you any more? And the article he links says nothing about historians vis a vis the gesture. How an article written a year ago can comment on a gesture made yesterday is something that only those living in fantasyland can explain.

But if Musk's gesture is a salute proving he's a Nazi then obviously Obama, Hilary and Kamala are Nazis also. Oh wait I forgot... in the leftard world, its different when we do it.

The only way to treat this monumental idiocy is to mock it...
http://tiny.cc/okw6001

Meanwhile, back in the sane world, the ICE deportation arrests have started, the J6 political prisoners are being released and the first confirmation hearings have gone 99-0 in Trump's favour.

Oh and BTW....ceasfire.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 22 January 2025 4:21:17 PM
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Donald Trump has been given a new nickname.

" Daddy's Home".

You can buy tee-shirts and anything else you want to wear
with that message.
They're selling faster than the one-of-a-kind Teddy Bears.

What's next?
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 22 January 2025 5:19:47 PM
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Trumpster,

The ceasefire in Gaza took effect before Trump was sworn in as the new Il Duce. That was that silly old fart Bidens doing.

BTW; Did you notice what great condition the 3 Israeli hostages who were released were in? Me thinks they need to join Jenny Craig. Can't say the same for the 90 Palestinians who were also released.

Now the Trumpster has become some kind of historical expert, or should I say, hysterical expert! Trying to play the apologist for Hitler and Mussolini, saying they were "socialists" BTW Mussolini led the Fascists movement in Italy. I can call the Pope a Protestant, but that doesn't make him one! Hitler had his peoples car, Trumps has his Tic-Tok (not that stupid dance the fool does)! Now he's babbling on about some Yank outfit should buy Tic-Tok and give half to the American Government (That's Donald). Now we have The Gulf Of America (formally Mexico), next it will be Donaldland (formally Greenland) and the Donald Canal, what's after that? America's 51 state New Trumpy (once called Canada). Does Donald plan to add another 200 states to America?
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 22 January 2025 5:21:44 PM
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Dear Paul,

So much appears to be changing. America used to be a friend
to many. The guys in the White Hats. The freedom fighters.
America didn't need to be made great. It was great. Now
a sales pitch has been sold - and the people of America
bought it.

Perhaps, sometime in the future - the words "You're
fired!" can still happen?
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 22 January 2025 10:06:44 PM
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"That was that silly old fart Bidens doing."

The Israelis said it was Trump's invention.
The Qataris gave the credit to Trump.
The Egyptians gave the credit to Trump.
Even the Biden State Dept gave the credit to Trump.

But they don't have Paull's historic expertise!!

As to Hitler/Mussolini. Hitler was a Nationals SOCIALIST. He even said he was what a communist would be like if they were nationalist.
Then look up the history of the Fascists, or get some 10 yr old to do it for you, and you'll find they were a breakaway from the Italian Socialist groups.

The rest of what you wrote is tooooooo childish to even address
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 22 January 2025 10:31:34 PM
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Dear Paul,

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What Trump didn’t do on day one :

Trump boasted he would settle the Russian-Uranian war in 24 hours if he were elected.

He was sworn in as president on 20 January 2025. We are now 22 January and he has not settled the war.

The truth is he no longer boasts that he will personally negotiate a “deal” to end the war. He now admits he simply “hopes” that peace could be negotiated in six months – without saying who would do the negotiating or even if it would happen during his presidency.
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What Trump did on day one :

• He pardoned Enrique Tarrio, the fascist Proud Boy leader convicted of seditious conspiracy — and serving a 22-year sentence in federal prison — for coordinating the attack on the Capitol from outside Washington.

• He commuted the sentences of 14 extremist members of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers convicted for plotting to overthrow the U.S. government and keep Trump in office violently.

• He blasted the pre-emptive pardons of Bidens family, moments before offering his own pardons to approximately 1,500 people convicted or charged in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol — including violent criminals who attacked police officers.

• He issued 26 executive orders, some of which already are, or probably will be, contested and possibly rejected : The one redefining birthright citizenship is already facing legal challenges as contrary to the 14th Amendment. The one Restoring the Death Penalty was anticipated by Biden who issued commutations for 37 of 40 federal death row inmates, that Trump cannot reverse. And the one on Elon Musk’s DOGE is already facing multiple lawsuits, ...

What emerged from day one :

The importance of the enlarged family clan of which Donald Trump is the undisputed “capo famiglia” (head of the house).

It clearly illustrated Trump’s conception of governance as a family process of blind devotion and unquestioning obedience to the “capo famiglia”, a winning process, that of the “Cosa Nostra” in Palermo, Sicily.

We now know what to expect.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Thursday, 23 January 2025 3:03:24 AM
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I believe Paul1405 is the totalitarian racist. But there you go. I've loved watching the pagentry of the inaugeration of President Trump over the last few days. But there is much work to do. Let us bend our shoulders to the wheel, most of life is just turning up, let the good people of Australia take back their world, and leave others to theirs.
Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 23 January 2025 3:58:49 AM
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Trumpster,

I believe in the "horseshoe political theory", where the extremes of politics approach each other. Hitler was right, extreme communism and extreme nationalism have much in common. Hitler and Stalin were similar in how they applied their methods of state control.

Your man Donald is not adverse to state control, look at the number of executive orders he signed to implement a whole raft of state control methods, we could call Donald a Socialist. Donald has even declared TicTok should be sold to an American, and that American should give half of the enterprise to the American Government (That's Donald).

p/s As I said the Popes a Protestant!

BTW; We have our own version of an Vidkun Quisling, the trillion dollar debt man, he's called Peter Dutton, Old Pete is trying to be a sycophantic Trumpster, just like YOU.

I'm glad the convicted criminal Trump got the gig. Trump Act I was, with sackings and mayhem everywhere, hilarious, Trump Act II is going to be even better. A total three ring circus with clowns in every ring, and with Donald as the supreme Clown Master!
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 23 January 2025 6:05:40 AM
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The parasitic are in overdrive to sabotage anyone who is conservative. Why ? Conservatism is a threat to Parasitism because it uses symbiosis & symbiosis works best according to merit !
Hence merit is a swear-word among the Woke !
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 23 January 2025 9:01:27 AM
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So the boy-child, narcissistic, vindictive 47th President of the USA has already spewed his vitriol towards the female high priest who delivered the inaugural prayer service sermon. Mariann Budde asked tRump to ‘…have mercy upon …’ scared individuals including immigrants and LGBTQ+ who ‘… fear for their lives.’ According to tRump only ‘… a radical left hard line tRump hater …’ could say or wish for such things. Obviously. these thoughts aren’t from the same God who guided him to be the savior of the USA.

On another note – how I wish we could all have a hat like Melania. One big enough where he never gets to slobber on us, but we can still smell the stench.
Posted by Aries54, Thursday, 23 January 2025 9:03:41 AM
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Let this US election be a lesson to us all.

With our own federal election just around the corner
we need to choose wisely how we're going to vote.
Also if we ever contemplate changing our system of
government in the future - do we really want a
President, and to give them so much executive power?
We now have an example in the US presidency do we
want that for Australia?
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 23 January 2025 9:18:38 AM
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"Trump boasted he would settle the Russian-Uranian war in 24 hours if he were elected."

It is truly said that those who understand Trump take him seriously but not literally and those that misunderstand him take him literally but not seriously.

We know where Banjo sits.

No-one with two brain cells to rub together thought Trump was going to stop the war in a day. Most of Biden's screw-ups are going to take much longer than that to fix. This is just Trump's rhetoric to say that it'll be a priority and will be resolved asap.

Tell me, when the Obamessiah said the oceans would stop rising on the day following his election, did you think that was literally true?

If you are going to believe every literal word from politicians, you are going to spend the next 4 years being very confused - even more so than now.

Oh BTW, there were more revelations today about the bribes that the Biden crime family received from the Chinese government and the efforts the Democrats made to cover it up.

Also seen today the observations that the hypocritical left had to stop shouting death to Israel to call Musk a Nazi. The hypocrisy will go over their head.

BTW..... ceasefire.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 23 January 2025 10:52:12 AM
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Trump never thinks before he speaks
His controversial views
He blames everyone except himself
Claims everything's fake news

He'll often describe the media scenes
How everyone conspired
It's early days, and yet it'd be great
If Congress said - "You're fired!"
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 23 January 2025 11:12:52 AM
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President Trump fixed the border issue in 5 minutes. The Democrats couldn't do it. Who is the excuser/ complainer and who is the doer? Even a four year old can work it out.
Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 23 January 2025 5:01:02 PM
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Foxy's appears to have "no clothes".
Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 23 January 2025 5:03:13 PM
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"before offering his own pardons to approximately 1,500 people convicted or charged in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol"

These people were political prisoners charged and/or convicted of attempting to overthrow the government when the full facts proved beyond doubt that no such attempt occurred. Information was withheld from the defence and people's rights trampled on.

In truth they were jailed for being Republicans in a Democrat jurisdiction that voted 96% Democrat.

Political prisoners. Now joyously free - in most cases.

They were examples of the two tiered justice system that developed under Biden/Pelosi. For example, Tim Kaine's (Democrat and Hilary's running mate) son was found guilty of storming "the MN capitol in an anti-Trump riot in 2017, set off explosive devices and tear gas, and fought the police. He didn’t do any jail time."
The BLM rioters literally burned down cities and established areas they claimed to be independent of the USA. None served jail time.

Two tiered justice is no justice. Trump is repairing that.

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" yet it'd be great
If Congress said - "You're fired!"

Trump won the majority vote and the Electoral College.

Foxy demonstrates YET AGAIN how little regard she has for those who don't vote the way she decrees. But they're the fascists?
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 23 January 2025 5:50:02 PM
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More proof that Musk is literally Hitler....
http://tiny.cc/wf37001

(The mockery continues)
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 23 January 2025 6:04:08 PM
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Let this US election be a lesson to us all.
Foxy,
To all you Leftists you mean ! The Trump election as all other conservative election wins in other countries is a confirmation that Wokeness is not only corrupt but also being recognised as dangerously useless !
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 23 January 2025 8:06:37 PM
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The USA is a democracy.

The people made their decision. Respect their decision and leave it at that.

As for Elon Musk's salute. Perhaps wishful thinking by some here. Compare it with the Neo-Nazi salutes we saw on our streets some time ago.

Some people have very vivid imaginations driven by their bias.

We should be thinking about our election. Do we want a leader who takes a Bex and lays down whilst rampant, vicious antisemitism, indeed terrorist activities are taking place on our streets, or a leader given to law and order.
Posted by WhiteMouse, Thursday, 23 January 2025 9:57:50 PM
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Fact-Checking on Day One

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1. Trump said, “We will tariff and tax foreign countries to enrich our citizens.” But his proposed tariffs would be paid by U.S. consumers

2. He falsely stated there was “record inflation” under the Biden administration. But it was much worse during multiple periods in U.S. history.

3. Trump claimed that 38,000 Americans died during the construction of the Panama Canal. Only about 300 were American. There were 20,000 French. The rest were from Jamaica and Barbados.

4. Citing North Carolina and other states post-Hurricane Helene, Trump misleadingly claimed that the federal government “can no longer deliver basic services in times of emergency.” FEMA provided food, water and other supplies, offering over $344 million in assistance within weeks of the disaster.

5. He said the U.S. has “the largest amount of oil and gas of any country on Earth,”. It produces more but several countries have far greater reserves than the U.S.

6. Trump blamed high inflation on “massive overspending and escalating energy prices.” The COVID-19 pandemic triggered the escalation.

7. He said he would “revoke the electric vehicle mandate” and allow people “to buy the car of your choice.” But there is no “mandate” on electric vehicles. Carmakers are free to decide how to reduce tailpipe emissions.

8. Trump said, “We will bring law and order back to our cities.” Violent crime has gone down slightly since he left office.

9. Trump claimed that many immigrants crossing the border illegally are from “prisons and mental institutions.” There is no evidence to support that.

10. He insisted the 2020 election was “totally rigged.” The evidence and 77 legal cases prove the opposite.

11. Trump falsely claimed that the House select committee that investigated the Jan. 6 Capitol attack “destroyed all the evidence”. The committee released an 800-plus page report with the evidence.

12. Trump falsely claimed that he “offered 10,000 [National Guard] soldiers” to protect the Capitol on Jan. 6, to then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, wrongly adding that she “admitted it on tape.”

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Friday, 24 January 2025 12:45:29 AM
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There are about 244 million people eligible to vote in the US. 77,284,118 voted for Trump in the 2024 presidential election. That represents about 32% of all those eligible to vote.

That means that 68% of Americans who could have voted for Trump did not. No doubt for various reasons – not necessarily because they did not want him to become president.

It is, nevertheless, something that should be kept in mind as events unfold.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Friday, 24 January 2025 1:30:16 AM
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"12. Trump falsely claimed that he “offered 10,000 [National Guard] soldiers” to protect the Capitol on Jan. 6, to then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, wrongly adding that she “admitted it on tape.”"

http://tiny.cc/rl67001 Oh dear!

"3. Trump claimed that 38,000 Americans died during the construction of the Panama Canal."

No. He said: ""They were diggers, and they were brave: 38,000 men died from infected mosquitoes in the jungles of Panama during the construction period. Think of that: We lost 38,000 men." No claims they were Americans.

"2. He falsely stated there was “record inflation” under the Biden administration. But it was much worse during multiple periods in U.S. history."

There are many ways to measure inflation. Picking one and making claims about it indicates a desire to falsify rather than edify.

"6. Trump blamed high inflation on “massive overspending and escalating energy prices.” The COVID-19 pandemic triggered the escalation.'

It was caused by the laughingly named 'Inflation Reduction Act' which threw stupendous amounts of money into an already over-heated economy. At the time Biden claimed it wouldn't cause inflation since “Milton Friedman isn’t running the show anymore.” Friedman had proven in the 1970s that government spending was the cause of inflation. Friedman was proven right again.

And sadly these were the least inaccurate parts of Banjo's claims!!

And so it begins. False claims made against Trump get believed by the TDS crowd and form part of the meme that all is a lie while they try very hard to forget the most corrupt regime in US history that preceded it.
And irrespective of how outlandish the claims of lies are, they'll be repeated by the losers ad infinitum.

Musk Nazi salute.... just add it to the list.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 24 January 2025 5:47:31 AM
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The Panama Canal belongs to the 40,000, mostly black and Hispanic people who perished while labouring for a uncaring America during its construction.

California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, and most of Colorado once belonged to Mexico (Actually it all belonged to the Native Americans) the United Stole the land of others!
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 24 January 2025 7:31:31 AM
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A defining feature of authoritarian regimes, including fascist regimes, is total control of the media, extreme suppression of free speech, and an obsession with misinformation/disinformation. I think that a significant reason for Trump coming to power was his promotion of free speech.

In Australia there are many examples of attempts to control public opinion with supposed "fact checking" that amounts to no more than blatant distortion for the purpose of supporting a political agenda. Some examples:

-finding a Nazi salute to be a camera adjustment and a mock Hitler mo to be an unrelated habitual hand gesture

-finding that a group of people didn't chant "f the Jews" of "gas the Jews", but rather "Where's the Jews?"

-fact checking to determine the Uluru Statement to be one page

-finding wind and solar to be the cheapest and most reliable forms of energy generation

As AA members well know, there is no hope of solving a problem until you acknowledge it.
Posted by Fester, Friday, 24 January 2025 8:01:31 AM
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In his address to the WEF, President Trump has invited manufacturers to set up in the US and enjoy low taxes, or cop huge tariffs on their imports if they don't.

And, he was still invited to address the WEF next year. Attaboy, Donald.

If only Australia had a leader like that instead of the two girly-men we have vying for the job.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 24 January 2025 8:02:42 AM
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Speaking of boys and girls, Donald Trump has made official what we all know is true: there are only two sexes. No more nutty males claiming to be women, getting into women's prisons to rape real women, or into single-sex ‘spaces’ and activities (e.g sport) designed for women.

Here, in Wackstralia, we have two insipid parties who prefer pandering to ideology and lies about nature rather than protecting real women from these perverts.

US agencies have 30 days to remove all policies that promote gender theory and immediately stop promoting the lies via messages and statements. Forms have to have to have removed any nonsense not reflecting biological sex.

No more grants for gender ideology.
Blokes in women's prisons evicted.
Federal government must purge all doctrine that aligns with gender ideology.
Nothing gradual for Trump - it's now!
Dimwits cannot claim that there is anything oppressive about truth and reality.
Human beings cannot change their gender and no one should be forced to deny reality for fear of a misguided law.

DEI in the US is dead. There will now be a “colourblind, merit-based, and biologically sound society”. Merit is back.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 24 January 2025 8:48:02 AM
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Its so cute when Paul decides to give history lessons..."labouring for a uncaring America during its construction."

In fact the vast majority of those who died did so during the French phase of the construction. When the US took over they were very aware of the need to provide the best possible protection for the workers and so, even though most of the construction occurred during the US phase, under 25% of the deaths happened under US stewardship.

It should be noted that the US isn't proposing to take over the canal. They simply object to the Chinese being in charge of the entry and exit ports attached to the canal and that they, the Chinese, have altered those ports to be dual purpose civilian and military facilities. Meaning that, in the event of conflict with China, it could effectively close the canal to shipping. The US will pressure Panama to reverse this situation.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 24 January 2025 8:50:23 AM
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Trump has previously promised his followers that "they are going to win so much, they will become tired of it."

Well I think it'll take a long time to get tired of it but its started:

* Saudi Arabia has promised to invest $600 billion (with a 'b') in the US

* Trump hating CNN's ratings are so low they are "laying off hundreds of employees this week"

*Some Democrats are starting to break ranks. New York City mayor Eric Adams has been complaining that the Biden administration was completely unconcerned about the damage the illegal aliens were doing to NYC and that when he raised it with them he was told to just ‘be a good Democrat.’ ie STFU.

* it now seems all the J6 political prisoners have been freed including one who was held for 4 years without trial. Yet they called it justice.

* DEI (Diversity, equity, and inclusion) departments and authorities are being shut down all around the country. Merit based appointments are being reinstituted. Appointing people based on their abilities rather than gender or skin colour - so crazy it just might work.

* There is a growing stream of illegal aliens self-deporting rather than waiting around to be arrested and deported.

* The UAE is in talks with Israel and the Trump White House, promising to fund the reconstruction of Gaza provided some way can be found to keep Hamas out of it.

* A steady stream of Democrat hold-outs are leaving the DOJ rather than wait to be sacked.

* that same DOJ is now working on ways to prosecute local officials who refuse to help ICE to find and arrest illegal aliens.

And the beat goes on....
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 24 January 2025 9:09:21 AM
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Dear mhaze,

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In reply to point N° 12 of my Fact-checking list, you posted a link to a “The Dan Bongino Show” website article.

I see that the website is run by Dan Bongino who The New York Times listed as one of its top five election "misinformation superspreaders". In the wake of the Capitol riots on January 6, 2021, Bongino's Twitter account was temporarily shut down on January 7, 2021, for violating Twitter's Civic Integrity policy.

The website is politically rated “far right”, with “low credibility”, publishing conspiracy and propaganda, and has failed fact checks.

The website does not feature an "about" page, mission statement, author name, or ownership, demonstrating a complete lack of transparency.

The website does not publicly disclose ownership, but Dan Bongino copyrights the website. Bongino.com generates revenue through advertising and the sale of branded merchandise.
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Apart from that, I have noted your interpretation of the other points which I find quite interesting.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Friday, 24 January 2025 10:41:48 AM
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