Kudos Kid,

The Family First Party seems to be made up of bigots, zealots and racists, so what have you got against them? Around here in the Qld State election recently the FFP ran last of 6 with 1.5% of first preferences.

"It [Family First party in Victoria] cannot register as a political party until after the next state election in 2026."

They were re-registered on 25 November 2024.

Sigh!

This is their party platform.... Not exactly 'Mein Kampf'.

http://www.familyfirstparty.org.au/policies

Trumpster,

Those Family Firsty mob seems you kinda guys, they're all about sex, drugs and rock n' roll. Funny one, the FFP candidate around our way was all for the family, married himself, but caught out chasing a local chick. Maybe that's why he scored 1.5% of the popular vote, not too popular being such a hypo as we discovered.

Paul and ttbn,

As you put some comments down that were similar/had links I'll comment here.

Firstly, if one joins or becomes part of anything it should (in principle) be done on the grounds of full consent and knowledge of what you are getting yourself into.

So, for example if someone crosses a street or road, in most cases a person will know the risks, like being hit by a car for example. Please note, not all will know the risks, but in principle most will and being hit by a car is accepted by most as part of life, unfortunate but it will happen.

Where someone is not in a position to fully consent, then the situation is different. So, ttbn when I refer to people on medication (like me) or say someone with a mental health issue, we are not always in a position to make a decision based on voluntary action and full consent and as a result, other parties involved must take some of the responsibility, not all of it, but certainly some as they have the power and control and we don't.

So, for example if I don't take my medication I face dying and loss of life and the entities providing the alternative have some sort of obligation to ensure what they offer is to a reasonable level safe.

That is the same with a church/cult and the women in this case who had a mental illness. They can't just preach what they want and then when things don't turn out right, just walk away like it is all nothing.

For those though who sign up, no issues, no previous things with their life etc. and they have a reasonable understanding of the issues involved with the church/cult, that's part of life, free choice, a life decision of their own. No real issues from me there as a supporter of religious freedoms.

Posted by mhaze-

"It [Family First party in Victoria] cannot register as a political party until after the next state election in 2026."
They were re-registered on 25 November 2024.
Sigh! This is their party platform.... Not exactly 'Mein Kampf'.
http://www.familyfirstparty.org.au/policies

A- Thanks mhaze for the link and for the updated information on their party status, at least in Victoria. The smaller parties fall in and out of party status all the time. All it means is the candidate stands as an independent. It makes it a bit harder to get the votes because independents don't appear above the line, and the public usually just votes for a party. We get the politician's we deserve.

Most of Family First's platform is pretty reasonable, but I was concerned at their position on reducing immigration not being strong enough.

For me this is the number one issue.

If we can give control of Australia back to the Australian's, rather than telling them what they should want, then our future can't help but look great.

Rather than taking other cultures stuff, you create your own stuff, is a better way to be happy.

Hi Nathan,

Religion, and religious cults offer a very appealing and easy way to solve ones complex problems of life. For many they offer security through "family", a sense of belonging, trust, companionship etc. These groups tend to draw others in over time with a very appealing message, its not until a person is deeper into the group that their life is taken over and can become totally under the direction of the cult leader(s). One thing they will do is cut a follower off from other (bad) influences, family, friends etc, pushing a belief that purity of life can only be achieved through them, and anything else is the work of "Satin".

Our grand niece who I spoke of earlier, joined this large religious mob at a time when her life was unravelling through a broken personal relationship, her life was in turmoil, these people offered an alternative that was most appealing. She broke away from family and become possessed by this group. It was not until she reached out to Aunty (my wife) for help that she was able to realign her life, and get back on track. We were convinced that if she had gone on that she would have been a candidate for suicide, or at the least self harm in some way. GN is no dummy, she runs her own business now, she's always been bright and has tremendous abilities. I don't think she way gullible, or failed in anyway, her circumstance at the time was what drove her in that direction, and I can understand that.