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Religions and cults - where's the responsibility?
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<<There isn't the slightest suggestion that the women was forced to join or stay in the church....>>
If someone is guided into a church or cult by an outside influence, it’s not voluntary. Without that external force, the woman and her daughter wouldn’t have joined.
The daughter was only 11 when her mother "took" her there. At that age, children follow their parents, especially mothers. Most don’t live independently until adulthood, and without other options, you aren’t going to just leave.
<<She decided to stay. She decided to.... and equally the death of the son..... may have....>>
Exactly. As someone who spent over seven years resolving a medical issue, I can’t stress enough how dangerous it is to rely on those who oppose medical care in favor of spiritual healing. It creates many uncertainties that could have been avoided here if the mother wasn't involved in a church/cult that rejects medicine.
<<BTW you say I'm victim blaming here. Apparently you think the daughter is the victim!! You should note that claiming victimhood isn't the same as being the victim. The victim is the mother....>>
The daughter lost her mother. She is sad. She may have left at 17, the circumstances would make anyone want to eventually leave when able to do so. "Love gifts" (money) and constant indoctrination will see someone eventually want to leave when they can, but it doesn't mean they don't care about a mother.
<<Again, the women decided to stay in the church of her own volition. No force. No coercion......>>
The mother was not in a position to make sound decisions and cults/churches/mosques with extreme views don’t provide a space for no force etc.
<<She had free will and used it. She's allowed to do that in a free society.>>
However, freedom isn’t there with a medical condition. I know having one. In Australia, we aren’t living in a free society dominated by controlling entities, like big pharma and chemists that dominate and overcharge. I know taking seven medications a day!