[Cont.]
What if 90% of the money funding NGO's in Australia came from China?
And what if pro-Chinese Australians were causing the same civil unrest simply because when theses NGO's go about their activities they want Australian citizens to think their efforts are grassroots and not funded by a foreign power.

Beyond that, I don't know why any nation would want to be part of the EU, who are essentially authoritarian against their own member states, what side of the spectrum do you stand on, do you support Hungary and Orbans resistance to the EU's ways, or do you think the EU should be able to without Hungary's money in order to force them to comply with foreign dictates?

You always try to argue a different point of view, but that's ok it's good to have differing opinions, but it can be difficult when logic seems to have left the room.

My whole approach is that I don't support sanctions or overthrows, is that not what we are seeing here, an attempt by foreign interests to cause civil unrest and overthrow the country in line with 2013/14 Euro Maidan in Ukraine?

Why should you criticise me for having a principled approach.
Do you support sanctions and cutting diplomatic ties with Israel, for their genocide and crimes against humanity, or is this another one of those situations where you say it's good for the goose, but not for the gander?

If the Georgian government were to cart every single one of these Georgian protesters away and hold them in indefinite administrative detention without charge like Israel does to Palestinians would you support that or again, good for the goose but not the gander?

Do you have principles 'what you do for one you do for the other', or do you just arbitrarily apply things however it suits your own biases?

Maybe I should start a thread, it's been a while.

What exactly are 'Western values'?
What exactly are Judeo-Christian values?

- Can all these claimed 'values' exist without conflicting upon each other?
And if not, then what does it all mean?

Again AC you just assert that all this is being caused and coordinated by outside forces. No evidence - just assertion. Even as senior Georgians (see my earlier links) say otherwise.

You treat the Georgian people as though they are complete fools who are being manipulated by people you don't like. You've fallen hook line and sinker for the Maiden fabrications from the people you reflexively believe and no think they are being repeated here.

Why can't you accept that a large portion (maybe a majority but we'll never know because the vote was dirty) of the Georgian population genuinely believe that their legitimate rights and views were stolen in an unacceptable manner and that they want that rectified? Why do you just dismiss them as dupes of some fantasy conspiracy theory you've concocted where external NGOs treat them like pawns?

The Georgian people have rights and they believe those rights have been stolen. I'm in favour of them seeking to recover those rights even if it upset the people in the Kremlin you are so beholden to.

"Again AC you just assert that all this is being caused and coordinated by outside forces. No evidence - just assertion. Even as senior Georgians (see my earlier links) say otherwise."

Read this earlier...

http://theconversation.com/georgians-are-protesting-their-pro-russian-governments-withdrawal-from-eu-accession-talks-but-brussels-is-also-at-fault-245072

>>Earlier this year the government passed laws that openly defy EU principles. In May, Georgia adopted what is known as the “foreign agents” law. Modelled on similar legislation passed in Russia in 2022, this law requires NGOs receiving more than 20% of funding from abroad to register.

Georgia’s civil society sector is 90% funded from abroad, so this law puts virtually all NGOs working on issues related to democracy and rule of law in a vulnerable position. Critics believe the government will use this law to eliminate dissenting voices.<<

* '90% foreign funded'
Is it not therfore reasonable to say that 90% of protest organisers are on a foreign payroll.

What's the big deal about stating your civil society efforts are funded by foreign interests?
Whatever happened to 'transparency' mhaze?
Isn't that what we would expect if China and Russia were funding NGO's in Australia.

Yes, we would, and we do.
Get this...

It's actually called the Foreign Influence TRANSPARENCY Scheme. (FITS)
http://www.ag.gov.au/integrity/foreign-influence-transparency-scheme

>>The Foreign Influence Transparency scheme requires that individuals or entities register certain activities (registrable activities) that are undertaken in Australia on behalf of a foreign principal, for the purpose of political or governmental influence.<<

You want to know why the whole world's stuffed?
Because people don't pay a lot of attention to the details of things that don't directly impact them, and I'm probably as guilty as the next bloke on the majority of topics.
Easier to go watch the sport, daytime soapies, Youtube, Netflix or spend hours on Tik-Tok watching cat videos.

Peter Dutton and the whole entire coalition should register as foreign agents, not because of funding though, more from open stated foreign loyalties.
Apparently Ursula Van der Furer and the rest of those European NAZI's oppose transparency.

Maybe the Georgians should fix the problem like Israel does.
- Just assassinate all the journalists?

Move along, nothing to see here...

"Is it not therfore reasonable to say that 90% of protest organisers are on a foreign payroll."

Reasonable? No. Completely bonkers..yes.

Where to start?

1. The 90% figure is made up. The article you link doesn't provide support for that number. It just asserts that its true. And as we know, you just believe whatever you're told if it suits....and demand others do likewise.

There is no way they can know that the 90% figure is true because the NGO's in Georgia are currently refusing to abide by the new law and disclose their funding. So not even the Georgian government knows the number. But you'll believe it with all the certainty of a convert.

2. Even if the number is true (and have I mentioned that its not?) that doesn't mean that all the NGOs involved in the protests are getting funding. There are plenty of NGOs in Georgia who are pro-Kremlin (probably Kremlin stooges) who get foreign funding.

3. Finally, and most devastatingly for your fantasies, there is no, nada, zero evidence that the NGOs are controlling the protests. You've just made that up with no thought. The protestors are ordinary folk who think their future lays with the EU and see that the Kremlin is suborning their future. So they vote and when their vote is cancelled, they protest. No NGO required.

As usual, you ignore the individual and, in your conspiracy ladened world, see only nefarious forces manipulating these folk.

Its the standard fascistic thought processes that we see from you all the time whereby the individual is not just ignored, not just treated as a cog, but actively considered as expendable in the desire to advance one side.

But the Georgian aren't expendable. I don't know whether they are right that their future would be better in the EU. I don't know if a majority of Georgians think like that (because all votes are corrupted by the Kremlin). But I do know that the individual counts and deserves consideration and respect.

They shouldn't just be swept aside in the Kremlin's desire to re-establish the USSR.

Lol - you make it so complicated and confusing, the simple solution
Why not just abide by the foreign agents law then, for transparency?
[Oh no he's baffling us with something that would make sense if we we're talking about us, not them! Quick change the topic]

"As usual, you ignore the individual and, in your conspiracy ladened world, see only nefarious forces manipulating these folk.
Its the standard fascistic thought processes that we see from you all the time whereby the individual is not just ignored, not just treated as a cog, but actively considered as expendable in the desire to advance one side."

You're always one step behind, sherlock.
We're all pawns in someone else's game.

The Ukrainians, 'fight to the last man'
The U.S. is now pushing them to 'fight to the last boy' right?
They're pawns.

The Palestinians, the Georgians, the Syrians, all of us mhaze - pawns.
Do you remember Covid?
You think they had our best interests, or the interests of the ruling elite?
Gotta take your pfizer shot, someone has to profit
It's time for your 10th booster mhaze.
Can't stop those Qantas flights coming, Blackrock might lose out on their investment.
You think they care if there's conflict and division because of immigrants?
They want that - It helps them justify all sorts of other surveillance
- for our own good of course

We're all pawns