It is true they groom everybody to appear like criminals, act like yobbo's, or look like terrorists (no smiling in passport photo's) and they do this so that the system can then act like they cannot easily identify those that do wrong and they can treat us all like potential criminals. Potential criminals do not get rights or protection, only actual criminals get them.....

I agree that women look so much better when they are properly dressed and they behave in a respectful way – as do men and that is what I teach my chidren. Sometimes my children get ostrasized because of it. Unfortunately that is the price that you pay for having self respect and morals.

Education - Keeping them Honest
http://jolandachallita.typepad.com/education/
Our children deserve better

Jolanda, while at times my children expressed themselves that I was too strict in pursuing proper attire and conduct, now that they are all adults they rather express to be glad I pursued this.

One of my daughters wrote me a card with the following;
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Dear Dad,
hey, happy Birthday
Sorry, I didn't call you on the day. But I hope you had a very good day.
Dad you are my angel.
Who looks after me. Your love is with me always, wherever I may be. Your guide and you guard me. Your strength is always there. You're such a special father to me.
who's full of love and care.
I love you.
I really care for you.
I love everything you do.
You are the best, then all the rest.
Lots of love Rebecca.
xxxxxxx ooooooo
END QUOTE
Another daughter wrote in simular manner some years ago!
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Seems she rather liked it that I was a caring (sole) parent!
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I did teach them that you do not discriminate because of nationality, religion, colour of skin, etc, and I ended up with a mix of nationalities, religion and skin colours.
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As a parent we always (in general at least) we seek the best for out children but in the end they make their own choices.
I have always made known to my children choose a job you are happy in. This, as when I was in charge of factories I found to often people unhappy and then spending their monies in the pub.
One of my sons quit school and did some labouring work. I did not complain. Albeit did explain he should keep his long-term future in mind. After doing an apprenticeship in motor bikes he then did an apprenticeship in motor cars and he makes known to me he heard what I had explained to him. He-respected-the-fact-that-I-did-not-demand-anything-but-left-it-him-to-make-the-choice.
Likewise with social-conduct towards others who may have a different background then ourselves we should recognise them for the human beings they are and if we do so we might just avoid a lot of discrimination occurring.

Turnrightleft
As the topic raised is Discrimimination I cant see the problem with Jolanda raising what she beleives was discrimination of gifted children in this thread.
It doesnt really matter if she has a case or not its on topic is my point.
Regarding the complaint and the bank discrimination claim [which bank] thats certainly not off topic either.
Its a thread that was strted here and if anybody wishes to go back and read it then I feel it may be of great interest to our thread host.
Its rather difficult to understand turnrightleft why you would alledge anybody was having a go at Robert or anybody else by mentioning to AJFA and others that there was a similar thread for them to read.
I will pop a couple of links up next time AJFA and Mr Garrett and be interested in your opinion.
One is actually something that should interest all of us as it regards posting on olo and the other about a bank.
Oddly enough they are both threads started by Robert so rather than accuse us of having a go at him turnrightleft its quite the opposite.
We are brining it into AJFAs thread because they are two threads which are both about discrimination.
I am trying to be fair to AJFA and other posters and poor old Jolanda who seems to have had a long hard track with her matter.
Well until then its too late in the evening right now to start looking for links - but next post.
I think it will put new life into the thread and AJFA will possible appreciate it.
Robert might care to join us turnrightleft. It might be interesting to look at all the angles. We could have our own little discrimination judge and jury with the posters here. Why not. Goood idea because like AJFA and Jolanda we dont like discrimination either. You turnrightleft posted many comments so you might like to particpate also.once
Mr Gerrit seems well advised and we look forward to hearing his opinions especially.