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Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Sunday, 23 September 2007 6:54:29 AM
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To all,
My post was aimed at focussing on ADCQ, not me. I deliberately did not go to great lengths on the stickers because I was worried some people might get distracted by that. Unfortunately, that has now occurred. Don't get me wrong; I like women. In fact, I am in a defacto relationship. My issue was only the approach these feminists were taking. Finger-pointing at all men is hardly an approach likely to work. The thrust of my story is this: that ADCQ applies standards very selectively, even to the point where they sometimes break the law in accepting complaints. The complaint made against myself did not even allege that I had broken the law, yet it was still accepted. You have to stop looking at this in terms of your own subjective view of fairness. ADCQ is supposed to apply the law, not their views of fairness, or yours, or mine. In relation to the complainant against myself, I might like to add that the comnplainant was known to myself as an unstable trouble maker before the described incident, so that is why I did not at the time give her the benefit of the doubt. I still have doubts as to whether or not her disability caused her to do this. As for my name, AJFA, look at my blog and you will find the answer. Posted by AJFA, Sunday, 23 September 2007 4:25:01 PM
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Discrimination is an unfortunate thing.
Some people do not like you to disagree with their opinions and codes of ethic (or lack thereof) and use their dubious powers to dismiss you. This is blatant discrimination and should not be tolerated for one second. Posted by Frankieboy, Monday, 24 September 2007 12:26:54 PM
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AJFA, I agree with you on some points, but not others. Have read both your links. It is unfortunate that privacy requirements prevent us knowing the details of the complaint against you, as the particulars can be very revealing. However, on the face of it, I agree that as a minimum there should have been a reply to you prior to any conciliation hearing, outlining exactly what part of the law you were alleged to have broken, in particular what the alleged discrimination was. Based on wht you are able to reveal, the only thing that I can come up with is discrimination on the grounds of a medical condition (although I suggest that those that suffer from incontinence do have steps available to them to help prevent unfortunate accidents).
I agree with you in relation to mens/womens clubs. I dont have a problem with these existing, where they operate in a private sphere, and no activities or propaganda about the other sex is involved. Eg gentlemens clubs that feature "exotic dancers" is not something that I would support, but men/women only gyms etc are fine (particularly as these will seek to cater to physical differences and different training requirements). Mens/womens support groups are a little more contentious - eg the husband of a female rape victim should not be prevented from attendance at support group meetings, as there is arguably much to be gained by him about his wife's perspective, although granted that many women may feel uncomfortable with any man present. We need to apply a measure of understanding and commonsense in relation to all of these sort of issues. Posted by Country Gal, Monday, 24 September 2007 12:34:51 PM
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The whole issue with this discrimination topic is the fact that bullying, served out of prejudice, malice and spite, is not against the law. Discrimintion against those who are seen as superior is also not against the Law.
If those who are bullied or targeted as a result of jelousy, malice and/or spite are not protected by the Anti-Discrimination Act/board then who is the Discrimiation Act protecting and what is the boards role? Education - Keeping them Honest http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/ Our children deserve better Posted by Jolanda, Monday, 24 September 2007 12:38:53 PM
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I've gotta agree with James. If it was attacking all men, then fine. But the fact of the matter is, some men (even though it's a small number) have used drugs to rape women. It's not discrimination to try and prevent this from happening again.
You may feel it's treating all men like this by putting posters up, but I don't see it that way and even if that extrapolation was a reasonable one, perhaps it would be worth it if it dissuades further rapes. In relation to the hearing, I agree you should have been informed. On a side note, it's rather interesting watching everyone impress their own causes onto a discussion. PALE leaps in to have a dig at R0Bert, despite the fact that he hasn't even posted here, then Jolanda jumps in to have another dig at the education system that had the temerity to see her children as less than wondrous prodigies... Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Monday, 24 September 2007 12:53:59 PM
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I think you might find this is a religious thing. Maybe maybe not.
I read another thread Robert started where he was protesting about a bank being guilty of discrimination and promoting voilence toward men by women.
Mind you I think he was actually being serious. Poor chap.
You would have to be worried about whats happening to your country if you got too many of them.
AAJFA
What does that stand for? Some sort of small party?
Anyway I will point out to you that sexual abuse of ladies by men is a serious crime.
The reason they try to approach men on the subject is beause it is men commitiing these crimes.
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So the only ones I can see being dicriminated against in that case are the victims.
Sadly there are many crimes and rapes especially now with this drug.
I am sure you must have seen it otherwise you would not have opended this thread.
Now regarding your first complaint had it ever occured to you that the person must of had a medical condition to be in that position in the first place.?
I know in some religions that is offensive beyond understanding.
Its certainly not very compassionate of you to have made a fuss its clear it is not done by a normally healthy person.
Perhaps you have an agenda do you?
So the only other question I have is somone with your high standards [ or different standards] is not a person in my view who would normally get out and let your hair down with a few beers and ROCK.
So what where you really doing at these nightclubs AAJFA?
I mean you dont seem to like ladies very much anyway so unless you were there to check out the guys.
What where you really checking out other than the mens toilets ?
And what does AAJFA Stand for?
Now if your fair dinkim you wont mind my question