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So Now What?

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With the proviso that Trump isn’t yet President, that the Iranians and/or violent Democrats might yet get their man, and in the sure and certain knowledge that the deep state is already working on their efforts to neuter or overturn the election just as they did around this time in 2016, its time to now start asking what a Trump Presidency will look like, or at least what MAGA aims it to be.

Few have asked questions about the MAGA policies preferring to get lost in peripheries like the fake court cases or what this or that comedian said. But unlike the Democrat candidate, Trump has been very clear about the future.

So, taking them in turn and relative importance, these are the thigs the new Republican government will hope to achieve. (NB at this point its not certain the GOP will hold the House).

IMMIGRATION:

Somewhere between 11 and 20 million illegals crossed the southern border since 2021. Trump has vowed to remove most of them back to either their homeland or at back behind the southern border and to stop any further incursions.

He will speak to/threaten Mexico in order to stop further incursion before they start, and Mexico has already indicated that it will comply.

But by far the biggest and most contentious proposal is to physically deport those illegals. It is hoped that a large number, seeing the writing on the wall, will return home of their own accord. But many won’t, especially those involved in drug and human trafficking or who have already embedded themselves into the various crime gangs in places like New York.

Inevitably this will mean that people will need to be rounded up and housed while the logistics of returning them home is implemented and that will inevitably mean that the anti-MAGA forces in the US left, universities, judiciary and the UN, will try to thwart the deportation effort.

Still, given that this was Trump’s, MAGA’s and the GOP’s most popular and most repeated promise, the deportation will go ahead, no matter what headwinds are put in place
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 11 November 2024 4:40:24 PM
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You really are a goose mhaze.
20 million people in 3 years? You'll believe anything wont you.
Even something as stupid as saying that 18,000+ people crossed the us border every day for years.
Get your hand off it mate.
Posted by mikk, Tuesday, 12 November 2024 12:56:43 AM
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ELECTORAL REFORM

Following the mess that was the 2020 election and the fact that 2024 was only reasonably free and fair due to massive investments in time and money by the GOP to monitor all election activity, there will be moves to pass several federal laws to make elections more transparently free.

Chief among these will be a push for voter ID laws requiring each person voting to prove citizenship and residence in the state where they are voting.

While mail-in voting will remain permissible, it will be severely curtailed and made available only in exceptional and provable circumstances. Drop boxes will either be banned or their use strictly monitored.

Voting machines will either be banned or their use subjected to independent verification. The preference will be to go to paper ballots, at least for the more important issues and positions.
Voter harvesting will be banned or again, severely restricted and monitored.

Electoral rolls will be required to be much more thoroughly vetted. There is even a suggestion to cancel all rolls and have all voters reapply to be listed between now and the 2026 midterms.
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 12 November 2024 4:55:32 AM
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FOREIGN POLICY

The so-called ‘Deal of the Century’ will almost certainly be revived in the hope of finally ending the conflict in the Levant. Indeed, rumours already abound that Trump is using backchannels to talk to Abbas, and it’s confirmed that he’s had three phones this week with Netanyahu. With the effectively elimination of Hamas and the Hezbollah leadership, the influence of Iran over the issue is vastly reduced. Doubly so when it’s understood that Israel has shown the Mullahs in Tehran that it can hit them where and whenever it wants.

Pressure will likewise be applied to the Lebanese government to take the opportunity afforded by Israel’s decimation of Hezbollah to finally rid itself of this unwanted interloper.

Showing that they can see the writing on the wall, the Houthis have already called off their war against shipping in the Red Sea.

Trump has promised to end the war on the Russian steppes in short order and has warned Putin not to escalate in the near term. (It was thought Putin would go hell for leather to get as much as he could while weaklings Biden-Harris remained in charge).

Peace here will require Ukraine giving up territory. Crimea is gone. Much of the Donbass as well. But Ukraine will get promises of massive investments and treaties from Russia, the US, European nations and NATO of the integrity of new borders. It may also get a path to EU membership.

North Korea has moved firmly into the Sino-Russian realm since 2020 and probably can’t be bought back. So South Korea will get additional US support and sanctions on NK will be enhanced and enforced.

China is a special case and much of the foreign policy here will be in the realm of trade. Taiwan will be supported but only if it supports itself to a greater degree. Philippines also.
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 12 November 2024 5:05:28 AM
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If Trump is all the things that his haters say he is: Hitler, anti-democratic and the like, he would have no trouble getting rid of unwanted people. But, he is none of those things, so we will have to wait and see. He was successful in all sorts of things that other Presidents didn't have the balls to do last time he was in office; things that wouldn't/couldn't be done, according to the yappers.

I don't know what “q Lebanese” means. Tap it and you get ads for Tshirts.

Whatever, we know that the US will be a lot better than it was under the Democrats. So will the rest of the West.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 12 November 2024 6:53:39 AM
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We need to concern ourselves with what Australia does - if anything, given our low-quality politicians.

Defence and our reliance on the US is the important thing. We have to do more, spend more, with Trump in the Whitehouse.

There are costs as well as benefits in our alliance with America; but the benefits far outweigh the costs.

“Without America’s global strategic weight and the absence of the practical help they provide in intelligence, access to technology and in supporting our small deployed forces in many different operations, we could double the budget and still get a much less powerful military”. (Strategic Analysis Australia).

Albanese has cut our defence budget to finance vote buying crap. And there is a “puzzling planning focus on building the ADF for the latter 2030s at the price of weakening the current force”.

Our defence has been shockingly neglected for decades. Trump is going to want us to pull our wait, and not just rely on America. We cannot defend ourselves, and we can no longer assume that America will save us.

2027 is the date mooted for a CCP move on Taiwan. It's time for Australia to ponder the ramifications of that for ourselves and our inevitable part in it. The long sleep has to end.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 12 November 2024 7:25:18 AM
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