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Something many people have long suspected was confirmed today in the Federal Court by Justice Angus Stewart, Pauline Hanson, the leader of the One Nation political party is a racists. In a charge of racism brought by Greens Senator Mehreen Faruqi against the One Nation leader Justice Stewart found Hanson guilty as charged. Judge Stewart rejected Hanson's defence, and said her tweet directed at the Greens Senator was an "angry personal attack" and "anti-Muslim or Islamophobic" with no discernible comment linked to the issues Senator Faruqi had raised. Hanson and her racism appeals to a small section of the electorate, but fortunately the majority of Australians reject One Nation, and their hateful philosophy.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 1 November 2024 3:14:10 PM
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Dear Paul,

We all know the racist things that Pauline Hanson has said in
the past. However in this particular case - I'm a bit
uneasy with the behaviour not only of Pauline Hanson
but of Mehreen Faruqi as well. Faruqi is also known for her
outspoken and controversial behaviour in the past.

Faruqi posted
on the day of Queen Elizabeth's II's death in Sept. 2022
saying that she could not mourn "the leader of a racist
empire built on stolen lives, land and wealth of coloured
people".

Faruqi must have known this statement would offend and that
she would provoke a response.

Still, the federal court judge ruled in Faruqi's favour
against Hanson.

Personally,
I think both are equally guilty. One for provoking. The
other for responding. Both should be equally liable.

Both could have been asked to make a donation to charity.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 1 November 2024 5:24:29 PM
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Hi Foxy,

It was not a crime not to express remorse at the death of Elizabeth Windsor in 2022. I was rather unfazed by the woman's demise myself, she had lived a long life to the ripe old age of 96, and pass away peacefully, as I understand it, along with an average 150,000 others that day in the world, most not so fortunate to have such a peaceful ending. The judge was correct in finding Hanson is a racists who had broken the law.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 1 November 2024 11:01:37 PM
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I long for the days when we aspired to have freedom of speech in this country.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 2 November 2024 7:42:38 AM
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When did 'muslim' become a race?
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 2 November 2024 7:43:41 AM
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mhaze,

We have freedom of speech in this country, what we don't have is freedom of vilification, like the Hanson way!

See in the world of The Trumpster, the American territory of Puerto Rico is considered "floating garbage". What do you think, should those brown fellas, thats's the Latino people of US, should they vote for a bloke who thinks they are nothing more than "floating garbage"? Me thinks not. Latest polls of those who have already voted puts Harris well ahead in those swing states, all except Nevada. You might have to dust off your buffalo horn outfit and slap on the old red white and blue face paint come Jan 6th 2025. Donald could be calling again!
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 2 November 2024 8:00:14 AM
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Paul,

This'll confuse you no end, but freedom of speech means the freedom to say things some people find offensive. Bad speech (or what you'd consider bad speech) isn't stopped by censorship. Its stopped by good speech. Confused yet? Censoring some speech doesn't stop it, it just moves it underground where it can fester.

Speaking of being confused... I know that to you, fact is a four letter word. but Trump didn't make the garbage comment about Puerto Rico despite what those you rely on to tell you what to think told you. Confused yet? Biden OTOH did say that half the US population were rubbish. But as I say, facts and Paul are mutually exclusive.

I'm still trying to find out when muslim became a race. Is Christian a race? Scientology?
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 2 November 2024 10:59:07 AM
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To call PH 'Racists' in itself is idiotic let alone infinitely wrong !
Racists will call anyone racist except those who are racist !
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 2 November 2024 12:07:37 PM
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Justice Stewart found the phrase " piss of back to Pakistan,"
to be a variation of "go back to where you came from" and
that it was a "racist trope with a long history".

He found that it stems back to anti-immigrant and native
beliefs from the White Australia Policy.

The justice explained in his written reasons that:

"Although the tweet does not explicitly target Muslims in
Australia it does so implicitly through the reference to
Pakistan (i.e. the Islamic Republic of Pakistan) where
97% of people identify as Muslim and by targeting a
prominent Muslim and commanding her to go back to Pakistan".

Justice Stewart further explained:

"I am comfortably satisfied that both groups of people in
Australia that I have identified being persons of colour
who are migrants or of relatively recent migrant heritage
and persons of colour who are Muslim, are reasonably
likely to have been offended (i.e. profoundly and seriously)
insulted, humiliated and intimidated".

Justice Stewart found that Hanson's tweet amounted to a
contravention of the Racial Discrimination Act. Stewart
found that Hanson carelessly disregarded or was wilfully
blind to her tweets effect upon people who would be hurt
by it.

There's more at the following:

http://lawyersweekly.com.au/biglaw/40896-pauline-hanson-s-racial-discrimination-finding-explained
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 2 November 2024 1:31:41 PM
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So, it's OK for Arabs to scream 'gas the Jews' on Sydney streets, and to preach anti-Semitic hatred in the mosques. But, when a red-haired white Australian woman says 'piss off back to Pakistan', that's racist!

Or is that two women: Hanson is described as "racists", plural.

Would 'go back to England you pommy bastard' be racist these days.

Probably not, unless the pommy bastard in question wasn't white.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 2 November 2024 1:47:05 PM
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In short:

NSW Police say forensic analysis has found no evidence the
phrase "gas the Jews" was chanted in videos circulating
online from a pro-Palestinian rally at the Sydney Opera House
in October despite witness statements saying it was.

Investigators could not find any evidence nor could they attribute
these statements to any specific individuals.

As for the term "POM" (Prisoner of Mother England). This term
many Aussies use in a lighthearted and affectionate manner.
To many, however, - this term is outmoded - like the outdated terms -
Wog, Dago, Jap, Chow, Coon, Reffo, and even Wasp, are rarely
used nowdays.

It is important of course, to be sensitive to how some
people may react. It is better to gauge the people's
sensitivities before using any of these outdated terms - even
in a lighthearted manner.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 2 November 2024 3:01:58 PM
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mhaze,

I would have no problem if Ms Hanson went underground with her hate speech, she could channel the likes of you. The fact is the judge in this case found Hanson was racist against my dear friend and excellent politician Mehreen Faruqi. Even Hanson admits she's not the sharpest tool in the shed, and ain't that a fact.

ttbn,

Still trumpeting a vote for the One Nation racist.

Indy,

You certainly know to well how to throw a good old fashioned racist comment, remember your "Concrete Jungle Bunny" racially motivated insult you directed at me on this very forum. knowing I have some Aboriginal heritage!

On the "Puerto Rico is floating garbage" that was said at a Trump rally, by a so called Trump loving comedian. I take it as endorsed by Trump. The fact is Trump hasn't even apologised for the sledge of people of colour by his good buddy! Looks like the red necked Trump has lost the Puerto Rican vote with that comment.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 2 November 2024 7:54:59 PM
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The police lied. "Gas the Jews" was a clear as crystal, even on TV. Nobody except pig-ignorant, pig-headed Communists and apologists for terrorism have convinced themselves otherwise. Fortunately there are only two lunatics of that sort on OLO.

After Covid, no one trusts police. And the federal variety lied like pigs in sh.t to the a current Senate enquiry, denying that Communist China has set up two illegal "police stations" in Australia - as they have all over the Western world.

The "stations" were tracked down by Chanel Nine, who couldn't reveal the addresses because of our police-state strictures on free speech and freedom of the press. They even produced a nasty little Chinaman who confirmed the existence of these "police stations" in Australia, and all over the world.

You have to be totally witless to believe anything put about by Australian politicians, police, public servants and most of the mainstream media activists, and the judiciary, all of whom are just as dangerous to Australians as the Chinese Communist Party is.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 2 November 2024 10:38:59 PM
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A typical Trumpster with another "conspiracy theory" China is operating police stations in Australia. Well, as usual there's always a twist to the story, can't reveal the actual location because of the police state yahda yahda yahda.

Then there is the grand conspiracy involving every man and his dog. Well you keep believing it ttbn, and keep supporting the racists One Nation Party for all its worth.

"there are only two lunatics of that sort on OLO" But a few lunatics of the conspiracy theory type, wearing their tin foil hats.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 3 November 2024 6:39:27 AM
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"The fact is the judge in this case found Hanson was racist...."

No argument. But I was simply saying I longed for a time when the law of the land and the various governments that make those laws were pro-free speech and anti censorship. But alas the fascist-lite in our midst are assiduously working to kill free speech.

BTW, when did 'muslim' become a race?

BTW, I couldn't help but notice your complete silence over getting the 'garbage' story completely wrong. No acknowledgement. No mea culpa. Just silence and pretending that it never happened. The sort of ethics we've come to expect from Paul.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 3 November 2024 6:52:09 AM
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Paul1405,
Why the obsession with proofing me right about your character so often ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 3 November 2024 7:25:08 AM
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Multiculturalism is not a natural state. People's preference for their own kind is natural. I wonder how many people have ever pondered on why different groups of people, of different appearances, and with different languages and beliefs had been living separately in different parts of the world, before some people started thinking that they knew more than God, and came up with the silly idea of mixing up these hugely different people together - only in civilised, wealthy countries made so by advanced white people, of course.

Go against nature, and you are asking for trouble and what someone started describing as “racism”, which is merely people acting naturally to something they are not comfortable with, will occur, and it won't go away.

It was always ridiculous to think that diverse people were going to merge together and act as one. It hasn't happened anywhere in the world. The West - responsible for the attempt at multiculturalism, multi-ethnicism, is now divided into tribes, with those responsible vainly overcompensating for outsiders, and causing locals to become even more resentful now than they were at the very beginning, when they had this garbage forced on them.

And, so, we have what some of you call “racism”, while you continue to kid yourselves that the manipulation of nature and the creation of different tribes in one country has been successful. Your bellowing of the word at every opportunity just proves how wrong you are.

I'll leave this racist drum-banging thread with an observation that I have made over the years: people who marry outside their culture and race are highly sensitive to ‘racism’, even when it is not necessarily present.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 3 November 2024 7:29:27 AM
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Trumpster,

I didn't get it wrong, just as what was said by Goebbels can be attributed to Hitler as well, what is said by a Little Clown can be attributed to the Big Clown. AND, look above you'll find what I said on the "Puerto Rico is floating garbage" comment. Why hasn't your man Trump apologised for it, it was said at his rally!

FREE SPEECH is a great thing, and I am all for it, but its not to be confused with 'HATE SPEAK'. Unless you agree that hate speak is a legitimate weapon to be used to vilify others then there is no argument that laws are required to outlaw such speak. Someone could say "Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, are eating peoples pets" lets go one step future and say; "Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, are eating peoples children" both statements are a lie, but they are designed to specifically engender a ground swell of hatred towards "Haitian immigrants in Springfield" and by extrapolation hatred towards immigrants in general. Your man Goebbels was a past master at using a tiny lie, then extrapolation, to build hatred towards Jews and other disagreeable's, Trump and his cohort do the same thing. I ask where does lying stop and truth begin?
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 3 November 2024 7:47:35 AM
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"I didn't get it wrong, "

No the people you rely on to tell you what to think got it wrong. You just fell for it.

"FREE SPEECH is a great thing, and I am all for it, but its not to be confused with 'HATE SPEAK'. "

Hate speech is just speech that the elite hate to hear. Who decides its hateful? The fools on the left always think they'll be making those decisions - they're wrong. But being wrong is Paul's default position. Is calling someone Hitler hate speech?

BTW when did 'muslim' become a race?
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 3 November 2024 8:12:18 AM
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The United Nations has a lot to answer for in multicultural-caused ‘racism’. It has stuck its nose into French affairs, criticising that country for banning women from wearing Muslim head scarves on the sporting field.

Mind you, the law on religious garb and symbols has been around since 1905 to counter the influence of the Catholic Church. No complaints from the UN about that.

But, the UN “experts” (in what?) now say that the law goes against Muslims’ (nobody else's) “rights” to “express their religion, identity (not French apparently) and beliefs”.

Why anyone needs to express those things while playing sports is not explained by the “experts”. It doesn't seem to have worried Catholics or other people whose religion is not Islam. There is no mention of complaints from Muslims, for that matter. Perhaps it's just more crap from divisive activists with their own divisive agenda, designed to cause strife and a bit of good old race/religious hatred among the French, 80% of whom support the law on religious garb, and also believe that Islam should adapt to Europe, not Europe to Islam.

Fortunately, the French home affairs minister, who has the spine that the likes of our Mr. Burke completely lacks, has told the UN where to shove it.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 3 November 2024 8:37:52 AM
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Dear Paul,

Why do some people deny facts?

The answer lies in a deep seated psychological response
that helps them manage information that makes them
uncomfortable. It's a deliberate neglect of information
that to them is too upsetting or anxiety provoking to
allow into their belief systems.

It's the only way that they manage to make things make
sense to themselves. Hence the personal attacks on
people they don't understand and see as their enemies.
Hence their hatred of differences - and the list goes on.

However, it is important for the public to get all the
information about issues and not just be spoon-fed limited
information and only one opinion.

But as we know - it is a common strategy to try to neutralize
what real scientists, historians, and even high court judges
say - as in the current case of Pauline Hanson.

The Judge has explained his decision. Anyone unable to understand
it - could consult a legal expert or continue with more finger-
pointing and personal attacks - which of course is far easier.

Whatever rules your waves, or gives you an excuse for whinging.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 3 November 2024 10:56:50 AM
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Foxy comes out YET AGAIN against free speech that she doesn't like.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 3 November 2024 12:27:50 PM
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Talking about free speech?

Freedom of speech or expression is not absolute.
In most Western democracies there are common
limitations or boundaries which include - libel, slander,
obscenity, pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting
words, hate speech, to name just a few things.

And, as we can see from this discussion, "Some people's
idea of free speech is that they are free to say whatever they
like, but if anyone says anything back, that is an outrage".
(Winston Churchill).

In Australia - free speech does have legal limitations - as the
Pauline Hanson case clearly shows.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 3 November 2024 2:19:32 PM
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Hi Foxy,

Those of the Trumpster persuasion simply see "free speech" as a vehicle to peddle lies and distortions to generate hate towards those they despise. For example mhaze wouldn't call out Trump as a liar for saying; "Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, are eating peoples pets", clearly a lie, but that fits with his mantra concerning Non-Aryans.

When it comes to free speech, I believe the Trumpster, like his folk hero Donald, is a disciple of the "Goebbels' Principles of Propaganda" all 19 of them. mhaze which principle is your favourite?

http://www.physics.smu.edu/pseudo/Propaganda/goebbels.html
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 3 November 2024 4:17:30 PM
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""Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, are eating peoples pets", clearly a lie,"

Not a lie. There's evidence for it. But you'll never know that because you just fall for whatever those you rely on to tell you what to think tell you. eg

"According to court records filed in Stark County, Allexis Telia Ferrell, of Canton, is charged with injuring animals, prohibitions concerning companion animals and disorderly conduct.

Investigators with the Canton Police Department said Ferrell killed the cat by stomping on its head. She then went on to eat the cat “in a residential area in front of multiple people” at a housing complex on 13th Street SE."

As to the legal issues, the nuance seems to escape poor Foxy. The law, it seems, makes what Hanson said illegal. But that doesn't make the law correct. Somehow that's too hard for Foxy/Paul to understand.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 3 November 2024 4:36:19 PM
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Trumpster,

"Allexis Telia Ferrell, of Canton. The case has generated significant media attention and public outcry. Right-wing social media accounts have bizarrely linked Ferrell's actions to unfounded claims about illegal Haitian migrants consuming pets and wild birds in Springfield, Ohio. This connection has led to the creation of AI-generated memes depicting Donald Trump holding cats and ducks, reflecting the surreal nature of the situation."

mhaze, its only 174 miles from Canton Ohio to Springfield Ohio, did that fact escape you? Now you are being ridiculous! Fred Burtstal of Wapping London killed his wife's pet canary by biting the birds head off during a domestic argument. Does that prove hundreds, if not thousands, of Pommy men bite the heads off canaries. Just like your diso swigging folk hero Dangerous Doctor Donald, you are pathetic.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 3 November 2024 5:12:19 PM
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that fits with his mantra concerning Non-Aryans.
Paul1405,
Why do you always have to bring race into everything. Are you so stupid that you can't differentiate between between Race & behaviour ?
I'm just reading a book in which prisoners in WW2 were eating maggots & rats etc just to survive. They were of all races but they didn't constantly stir crap about their ethnicities !
I recall an old (white) farmer in Europe telling me how they used maggots in soup to keep up nutrition when times were really tough.
Never once did he mention Race ! You really need to seek help because your fixation with race is very unhealthy in the extreme !
There are good & bad in every race & when wrong is done it gets pointed out ! Just because it doesn't fit your mantra concerning Caucasians is your doing ! Why call Caucasians Aryans ? Only to stir crap ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 3 November 2024 7:33:58 PM
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I grew up in the Western suburbs of Sydney our neighbourhoods
consisted of a wide variety of people. From Yugoslav farmers,
to Maltese and Italian workers/ I went to school with girls
of Polish, Russian, English, Scottish, Irish ancestries. We all got along.

We all have different ancestries - always have had. That's the
reality. Why on earth are people still jabbering on about
"multiculturalism" when the reality of it has been with us
from day dot. That's who we are. We are a wide mix - and will
continue to be.

Telling people to "go back to where you came from?" Many of us
were born here. So we are where we belong. As the future
generations who come after us - will also be.

We are one and we are many and from all the lands on earth
we come ...
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 4 November 2024 8:55:47 AM
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There's some excellent t-shirts on the web that can be
ordered for Christmas.

The message on them reads:

Drink Russian
Drive German
Wear Italian
Kiss French

Tis the Season!

As the wonderful artist Caroline Keyes wrote:

" It is hard to get excited about snow, reindeers, and
steamed puddings when you're celebrating Christmas in the
Southern Hemisphere and enjoying long hot days at the
beach and feasting on seafood and wonderful summer fruit".

Yet there is a tradition we can all share - during any
holiday festive season. Celebrate things with family, friends,
and remembering those that matter to us. We can all share in
our humanity - always. And that is something worth remembering.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 4 November 2024 9:37:37 AM
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Multiculturalism has NOT been with us since the year dot. Multiculturalism is a deliberate government policy enforced officially by the Fraser government.

Of course people from different backgrounds came into Australia after WW2 from different countries. I grew up surrounded by them in a country town where they did what they were expected to do: assimilate. Language was the only thing that made them different from Australians. They were white, Christians, or white agnostics, or white atheists. Culture wasn't even talked about. They became citizens as soon as they could, and all ‘bogged in’ like the rest of us.

I was in my early 20s when Malcolm Fraser's government decided to divide people into different “cultures”. That arrogant bastard decided, without any consultation with the people he was supposed to represent, that suddenly, it was a good idea for immigrants to be deliberately different, and stay different, from the host population.

Now we are paying for it, with even more insane ideologues encouraging differences that have turned Australia into a nobody's country of opposing tribes. Australia, and most Western countries - particularly those in the Anglosphere - have been turned into sh.tholes: not because of the immigration of people who are different from the white, Anglo/Celtic founders of Australia (in our case), but because of evil insiders who insist that those people should stay different.

Australia is a very divided country: and the so-called elites intend it to get even more divided.

People deliberately misusing language, and pretending that their own non-Anglo background makes them culturally different: that they are somehow the same as immigrants from the really different cultures of Asia, Africa and the Middle East need to get over themselves. They can't claim victim status. Not much effort needed to guess who I'm referring to.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 4 November 2024 10:21:24 AM
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I guess all of us can only speak from our own experiences.
Most of us just get on with our lives and take people as
we find them. I've been lucky enough to find that most
people that I encounter are decent human beings. I also
find there's so much to learn from other cultures. It is
a fascinating world that we live in after all.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 4 November 2024 12:19:49 PM
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We know from history that for many thousands of years
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people lived on
the Australian continent. Estimates suggest that there
were some 700 different cultural groups speaking some 250
different languages.

Indigenous people had contact with people from Papua New
Guinea and from explorers and traders from Asia and the
Pacific Islands. Australia's multiculturalism has been
built over 60,000 years of First Nations culture. The
country's success is attributed to immigration being
accepted as a nation-building project.

Of course there have been challenges - including
discrimination based on skin-colour, ethnic origin,
and religion.

That's why it is so very important what our children
and grand-children are taught both in their homes and
in institutions of learning if we want to proudly be
known as a tolerant, cohesive, society, where everyone
if given a "fair-go".
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 4 November 2024 12:45:25 PM
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That’s the opinion of this judge., not the opinion of many of us mere mortals.who I would tend to believe before this learned judge. The learned crowd do not have a good record of being reasonable at times.
Posted by gj123, Monday, 4 November 2024 6:32:44 PM
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Hi Foxy,

We soon lost the Trumpster when the 'Big Lie' "Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, are eating peoples pets" was exposed. I think mhaze swallowed the cat with that one.

There are a few Old Fart die-hard racist buggers who wont accept multiculturalism in Australia for the success it has been. The vast majority of post war migrants from Europe, Asia, South America and Africa, have made decent lives for themselves here. Today the sons, daughters, grandsons and granddaughters of migrants are having great success in this country. Only last Saturday the son of Italian migrants was elected the 41st Premier of Queensland.

"David Frank Crisafulli was born on 14 April 1979 in Ingham, Queensland. He is one of two children born to Karen and Antonino "Tony" Crisafulli; his parents are both of Italian origin. His father's family originates from the village of Novara di Sicilia in Sicily, Italy. His paternal grandfather Francesco Crisafulli immigrated to Australia in 1960 to work as a cane-cutter and later established his own sugarcane farm on the Herbert River.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 4 November 2024 7:23:00 PM
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None of this shite would be dragged out periodically if Abbott had had the guts to stand up to the Left woke in his party who dissuaded him from keeping his election promise to abolish sec.18c.

Hanson says she will appeal against Judge Woke's ruling, citing freedom of political communication – a right the High Court has said is implied in the Constitution.

Faruqi should piss off back to Pakistan: she is an anti-Semite and therefore, a blatant racist herself. Like Thorpe, she has also abused the Monarchy - Queen Elizabeth in particular - despite her oath.

Hanson's remarks about the appalling Green Senator are welcome, and they will not, can, not, be unsaid, no matter what some dopy judge thinks. Millions of Australians will agree with the words, and will hopefully remember them at the current and get rid of the likes of Faruqi.

Remember the photograph of Faruqi with a sign saying “keep Australia clean”, clearly suggesting a need for ethnic cleansing of Australia? She also refused to vote against the genocidal slogan “from the river to the sea”.

It's pretty clear which of the two women is the real racist.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 5 November 2024 7:45:45 AM
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"Facts will always prove us wrong".

Pauline Hanson's past and present behaviour is on
record. As is Senator Faruqi's .
The judge made his decision according to the law.
He found that the explanations offered by Hanson's
legal team - were not valid.

I stated at the very beginning that my preference would have
been for both Hanson and Faruqi to have been found guilty
of inappropriate behaviour. One for provoking,
the other for responding. The judge made his decision according
to the law. Justice wears a blindfold for a reason.

Dear Paul,

If we look at the leaders we've had in this country - we'll
find their ancestries to be a very wide mix. Did you know that
the South Australian premier is of Lithuanian ancestry? Our
PM - of Italian? And so it goes.

We are one and we are many ...And from all the lands on
earth we come ... We share a dream and sing with one voice.
I am, you are, we are Australian.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 5 November 2024 9:01:25 AM
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We would see who the real Australians are if the country ever had to defend itself.

An IPA survey after the Russia/Ukraine conflict revealed that if Australia found itself in a similar situation that only 46% of people calling themselves Australians said that they would stay and fight, 26% were not sure, and 28% said they would leave. The percentage of ‘leavers’ is suspiciously close to the percentage of “Australians” who were born overseas. How the fools think that they would be able to leave during a war, or that other countries would take them in, only they know - if they have even thought about it. But, I am sure that it would be better to not have them here, as it would have been better not to allow them to come here in the first place.

It would save us having to go to the cost and inconvenience of having to intern such people, particularly those from the country/countries Australia might find itself at war with.

Which brings us back to the stupidity of bringing in migrants who are not descended from people of British or European background. We are British-based, and it is highly unlikely that Europeans would ever be a threat these days. Our political class has put us in a lot of danger with its absurd importation of the wrong people, too many of whom are only Australians-of-convenience.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 5 November 2024 11:22:54 AM
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I'm rather hesitant about tarring any particular group with
the one brush. History has shown us that no faith, no
nationality, no race during wars is free of cowards or
collaborators. No group is spared from killers and
traitors in their midst.

Talking about British and European loyalty?

The - "Cambridge Spy Ring" John Cairncross, Anthony
Blunt, Guy Burgess, Donald Maclean or Kim Philby. British
Intelligence Officers who were double agents for the
Soviet Union.

The Duke and Duchess of Windsor were said to be sympathetic
to Nazi Germany.

There were - Europeans who proclaimed themselves to be
"patriots" yet sold their country out. So I think we should
be careful of just tarring any particular group with the one
brush - and saying the others are squeaky clean.

There are and always will be individual differences.
People who use systems for their own gain. No particular
faith, race, or nationality is immune.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 5 November 2024 12:48:53 PM
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I have to say that the UK is looking a bit iffy these days: first a PM of mixed Indian/Kenyan descent, and now a black woman. Rule Britannia seems to have become Fool Britannia.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 5 November 2024 3:11:00 PM
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We would see who the real Australians are if the country ever had to defend itself.
1/ Does 'defend ourselves' mean fighting on our shores or on others?
2/ If there is a war, what exactly are we defending?

I'd argue if we are stupid enough to go to war with our largest trading partner, then the enemy might not even reside on foreign shores.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 5 November 2024 3:20:23 PM
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ttbn is concerned black people are getting into the top jobs in the UK very if'y in his book, don't these black fellas know their place in polity white society? Next think you know some upperty black fella will be running Australia, now that will never do ah old fella!
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 5 November 2024 3:46:46 PM
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Let's be serious. A black person does not represent a country that is 82% white people. The once-conservative party has gone mad: pandering to minorities, which used to be an extreme Left pastime. But these days, all politicians are excited about skin colour, and to hell with white people - even though most of them are white themselves.

Strangely, the Labour Party has NOT tried to pull the same stunt. They just have a black underling or two.

That is not to say that Badenoch doesn't have merit. It's rumoured that she wants the Tories to be … well Tories; she thinks they have gone wacky on gender nonsense. She has a nice face - yes, people's character is reflected in their faces. It's a test that never fails.

But, she does not represent the majority of British people, who have always managed to make Britain that great place it has been for a very long time.

Back to one of the whitest of Brits, PM Starmer; he tweeted that, “The first Black leader of a Westminster party is a proud moment for our country”. So, what's he doing? Why didn't he decline the top job in favour of a black person? He didn't congratulate Badenoch for being the new Tory Party leader: he congratulated her for being the first black Tory Party leader. Again, if it's such a good idea, what is he, whitey, doing leading the Labour Party?

Starmer, and all the virtue-signalling, ‘anti-racist’ types are more into the skin colour and races of people - not the people themselves - than the people they abuse as racist will ever be.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 7:38:37 AM
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This thread is about a racist calling non-racists racist !
Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 8:48:07 PM
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You want to know whats interesting?

After Iraq, think about the Arab Spring, specfically 'Assad the Dictator'
What was that all about?
- My guess is trying to break the supply lines for the Axis of Resistance moving weapons into Lebanon;
So it was a Pro-Israeli war engineered by the United States.
And what about Ghaddafi?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Libya_relations
"Gaddafi refused to recognize Israel and rejected any political settlement with them, calling the conflict a matter of Israeli existence rather than a territory dispute. He also saw the 1994 peace treaty between Israel and Jordan as a push against Palestinian self-determination."

If you stand back and look at it, a lot more than just the Palestinians have been dying for Israels interests, and it's no wonder these people from Africa and M/E are enraged.

Think about Europe and the United Kingdoms immigration problems.
- Was it all random... or partly U.S. engineered wars for Israel and the United States benefit?
Which leads on to the following question:
Has the west been willfully destroying itself for Israels benefit?
Or does the U.S. routinely crap on it's vassal states when necessary to defend the empire?

And think about Nordstream and NATO's original purpose:
“Keep the Americans in, keep the Russians out, and keep the Germans down” is a quote attributed to Lord Hastings Lionel Ismay, the first Secretary General of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO). Ismay is credited with developing the administrative side of NATO, creating committees and an international staff, and designing the NATO flag.

NATO isn't a defensive pact, its a U.S weapons sales scheme.
But when you purchase U.S. weapons you must fall in line with their foreign policy.

And what was that Charlie Hebdo crap that caused it anyway?
Over one cartoon?
Israel has been slaughtering tens of thousands of Muslims, but they don't seem to be 'rising up' like we were told in the Arab Spring.

Western engineered lies.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 11:03:55 PM
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Think about this:
If it was U.S. policy to 'Reshape the Middle East'
- Then why assume that Netanyahu isn't doing exactly what America actually wanted, except that losing a U.S. election got in the way - in the bigger scheme.

General Wesley Clark "We're going to take-out 7 countries in 5 years."
http://youtu.be/6Knt3rKTqCk?si=sC01F2mMR5yYVJGR
Starting with Iraq, ending with Iran.

It's clear the target of these wars was Axis of Resistance / Israels enemies, for the benefit of Israel and the U.S.

You want some immigrants, and a free side serving of racist animosity?
Enjoy your meal.

The U.S dollar bill says 'In God We Trust'
What god exactly?
There isn't a depiction of Jesus or a cross.
There's this - what is it?
http://www.americanrevolutioninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Great-Seal-of-the-United-States-reverse-U.S.-Department-of-State.png

Scroll down here, you'll see it.
http://blog.nli.org.il/en/djm_ilanot/
It's Ein Sof

U.S Federal Reserve was started by Jews, it's their ink and paper so why think otherwise?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 11:45:09 PM
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Armchair critic,
Western engineered lies vs Eastern engineered hatred ! White lies to overcome dark evil !
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 7 November 2024 6:45:11 AM
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The election of Donald Trump has shown that the sex/race bulls.t is rejected by the majority.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 7 November 2024 7:17:50 AM
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Hi ttbn,
It may also show that the Average Joe simply thought Kamala was far more dimwitted and incompetent to lead than Trump.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 7 November 2024 8:39:16 AM
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AC

If they thought that they would be right. Harris had nothing to offer, except that cackle and droning about 'turning the page'. If she had been required to face primary voting as is usual in in selecting a presidential candidate, she never would have got the spot. The Hollywood cranks didn't help either.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 7 November 2024 10:00:28 AM
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Note that Adam Bandt declared the Trump win "terrifying", and demanded that the Aukus agreement be torn up.

What a wackjob! No wonder even Albanese doesn't want anything to do with the Greens.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 7 November 2024 10:08:45 AM
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