Hi Foxy,

Well thought out post re Islam, and the complexity of that mass monotheistic religion. I'm not an adherent to any religion, but I can see positives and negatives in all three monotheistic religions, providing you brush away the mumbo-jumbo and perverted interpretations, then the basic concepts are good such as "thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself" The verse from the Koran seems to align with the Judaeo Christian Bible verse. Like many "Christians" there would be many "Muslims" who fail to honour the teachings.

“Serve Allah, and join not any partners with Him; and do good- to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbours who are near, neighbours who are strangers, the companion by your side, the wayfarer (ye meet), and what your right hands possess: For Allah loveth not the arrogant, the vainglorious” (Qur’an 4:36).
(sayings of the Prophet):

Dear Paul,

The vast majority of modern mainstream Christians, Jews,
Muslims, and others, seek a better life on earth, rather
than seeking it in heaven. I've posted on this forum
in the past that we need to keep in mind that
the religiously minded modern person of whatever faith
is not a "card-carrying fundamentalist." The latter
are a tiny minority.

Still, I can understand some people's fears. Humanity can't
afford to have fundamentalists with their fingers on the
nuclear war button.

Hi Foxy,

"The vast majority of modern mainstream Christians, Jews,
Muslims, and others, seek a better life on earth, rather
than seeking it in heaven."

Absolutely agree, people are concerned with the problems of day to day living, and have little concern with getting to heaven. I've met folk over the years from other ethnic and cultural backgrounds, and indeed the majority if not all, simply want a better/good life for themselves and their families, and they hope to find it in Australia.

Fundamentalists are always a danger, they view the complex problems of this world in simplistic black and white terms, and believe those complex problems can be solved with simple solutions, which always involves exclusion of others in some form, never wanting inclusion. These people always believe right is on their side, and if they are religious fundos then they have the added bonus of having the perfect being in the form of a righteous god on their side as well, this can be a lethal combination for the rest of us.

Here we go again: Foxy knows what the “vast majority” of people think. Her little lapdog jumps in, and before you know it, the topic is changed.

I admit that I am not privy to what the “vast majority” thinks. I do know that if you ask people ‘what is the meaning of life’, you won't get an answer. Nobody, including me, actually knows.

We are born, we have no say in how long we live, then we die. There is no real reason for life on earth. There is no sense in it if a physical life on Earth is all there is. There is no sense in being a Christian, Jew, Muslim or having any faith at all if everything ends when you stop breathing.

Perhaps the purgatory or Hell spoken of is actually what we call life: a test for the hereafter.

Unlike some people, I don't claim to know what goes on in the privacy of the heads of other people, even those close to me. But, the older I get, the closer to the end of my life, I often say to myself, “there must be something better than this”.

In the meantime, while life goes on, I am pleased to see the resurrection of the Family First Party as another choice for people sick of the Coalition/Labor uniparty.

Family First voluntarily deregistered itself in 2017, but was reregistered on 20th. September by the AEC, the party is Judeo-Christian based and very pro-family.

The Albanese government, like all far Left regimes, fears the family: that's why it wants to brainwash children very early, and relieve parents of their responsibilities. So Soviet!

Protecting the rights of children and their innocence is one of their interests, which includes the alphabet people infesting the education system, plus defending the rights of parents.

Family First will work for “every Australian’s freedoms regardless of ancient ancestry, new immigrant status, believer or non-believer.”

I suppose that means even Sneery 1405 and Foxy.

You don't have to be a Christian to:

. Believe marriage is between a man and a woman
. There are only two sexes
. The family is the thing that holds society together
. Freedom of speech and opinion is essential
. Parents, not governments, should be raising children
. Mutilation of children suffering sexual dysphoria is vile
. Democracy is under threat in Australia

And, no. I have no connection to Family First, the ACL, or any other organisation, Sneery 1405.

We come into this world as "blank sheets," as every child
does. But then minds can be fashioned from an early age
by frightening nonsense preached by fanatical ideologues.

Most of us are willing to label Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot,
Idi Amin, as sub-human zealots. So, I guess it stands to
reason that some of us are going to also label those who preach
religious hatred against others.

The mistake that's made is labelling all who belong to
religious groups as being fundamentalists and extremists.
Not all Muslims are terrorists. Not all Christians are
"end-timers". Not all Jews support Israel's policies.
Not all Palestinians support Hamas. And not all posters
on this forum attack others personally - for their opinions.