I am I the only one who feels that French man Damien Guerot, known as the "bollard man" should not be given permanent residency in regards to the recent Bondi stabbing attack?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-16/damien-guerot-bollard-man-bondi-junction-attack-visa/103728858

I mean he held up a bollard yes in what as a terrible set of circumstances, but I do not feel that should automatically see you provided with permanent life here in Australia.

We have people in Australia doing brave things every day and they are not rewarded every time, nor are they expecting to be. I believe this decision will be the start of a slippery slope where the Federal Government starts giving out permanent residency willy-nilly.

We also have people who have waiting for their visas to be dealt with for years. They've no doubt done lots of good things over time, but no one is hurrying up their visa situation or giving them permanent residency here in Australia.

This is my view, what is yours?

Nathan J,
Agree ! This would start an avalanche of such incidents within hours.

He's a Frenchman who who obviously isn't a 'cheese eating surrender monkey' ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P-YjEchcng

so he's clearly unsuited to his own country. That alone should be sufficient grounds to give him refugee status.

Of course he is not "entitled" to permanent residence. It's just more emotion and bullsh-t.

These incidents, horrible as they are, should not be triggering the sort of emotional nonsense that they do: you can't have "feelings" about total strangers. People have been bullied into thinking that it is 'good' to fret about everything that happens - including 7 day wonders. Focus on yourself, and leave others to do the same. Being human doesn't mean reacting everything that goes on.

Hi Nathan,

He behaved bravely. And he didn't have to. He probably saved
lives. If the authorities feel that he deserves permanent
residency as a result of his actions, who am I to question
that?

I don't know the full story, but just based on the abc article you provided NathanJ, I've got no problem allowing this bloke to be one of the million people we let in each year.

I was going to agree with you until I read the story.
No, I'm with Foxy - he could've ran away but confronted the attacker.
He gave support to the copper in a crisis situation.

Fight or flight?
He chose to help confront someone that was murdering people.
He probably saved lives, and even if he didn't on this occasion
- without people like him, who can even form a small group with others also willing to confront someone in that situation, to try to protect the lives of others, then lives will be lost sooner or later.

I don't like the wording of:

'He was given permanent residency as a reward.'

I see it more as:

'He is offered a place here if he so wants it.'

Of all the people who get let in here...
Many questionable...

Why shouldn't this bloke get a chance to stay if he wants?

And any other Aussies who put their lives on the line when it counted should get some kind of reward or recognition too;
If that's what it takes to save lives in a bad situation what's the problem?

But, you mentioned the slippery slope.
And yes that could be a concern...

I wonder if we could have some official lesser-than-order-of-australia-medal or honour bestowed upon people who do good things?
A little statue of an emu and a kangaroo and some engraving recognising the outstanding thing you did.

Bragging rights at least?

If we don't recognise good actions and honour them
People might not want to put the extra effort in and just run away?
I'm happy for people to gain honour and rewards for doing great things when needed.
Why not - we pay for kids to have sex changes...

ttbn,

<<Of course he is not "entitled" to permanent residence.>>

It is all emotional and I agree. The PM may have got some brownie points here from some, but not from me.

Armchair critic,

<<I don't know the full story, but just based on the abc article you provided NathanJ, I've got no problem allowing this bloke to be one of the million people we let in each year.>>

The problem with this argument is that we have other people who have been waiting for long time periods for their visa matters to be resolved and some even deported as they could not have their matters resolved. We have had people sent back to places that are terrible to live in.

Yet this guy, the bollard man from France, a pretty nice place I would argue to live in gets the right to live here for as long as he wants and for a bit of basic activity that really shouldn't be common practice here in Australia.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/apr/19/as-we-celebrate-the-permanent-residency-granted-to-sydneys-bollard-man-the-deportation-bill-looms-over-others

The current situation here is based on discrimination and not fair. For those sent back to the middle east for example and have died, but done lots of good things in Australia, it's not fair.

Of course they weren't covered in the media - so we leave them out.

Did this bloke actually defend others or merely himself ?

Nobody owes anyone a permanent-residence:
Permanent-residence is an entry form of accepting someone into a society, thus it is completely at the mutual discretion of that society and the people it wants to admit.

On the other hand, nobody has a right to kick innocent and harmless people out from or deny entry into, one of God's blessed continents. One's ability to live wherever they wish on God's land is a natural God-given freedom which societies have no moral right to interfere with.

Land belongs to God, not to societies.

Yuyutsu

It’s difficult believing left wing politicians believe in God.

Subscribing to ttbn’s stated belief makes sense of the issue of religion and belief in a omnipotent being we believers call God, is difficult to equate to leftist Politicians captured by Nietzsche Think.

Dear Graham Young:

If your reading this, the SSL certificate for your OLO website expired on 18/4, making access to this site risky and convoluted ....( my research)!
Can you comment on it please.

DD,

Did inform GY of that fact some days past. reply; "It’s an expired security certificate. Sorry, haven’t had time to buy and install a new one."

The Frenchman, let him in, who really cares in the "great scheme of things". Not me!

God, god(s) "It’s difficult believing left wing politicians believe in God" It difficult to believe even the Pope believes in God. In my regular discussions with "believers", I ask "define God". The simplistic explanation of an old man with a white beard sitting in the clouds somewhere, is the easiest to understand, but most likely incorrect. Defining God, if there is such a thing, as a spiritual being is more plausible, but as likely as the old guy in the clouds. Food for thought, maybe God is us, our own spirituality, and not a being at all. I put that concept to the Christians I meet with, and they find it difficult to move away from the concept of God the being

Jujitsu

*Land belongs to God, not to societies*

The human concept of God , parallels the human concept of time.

Time, light and God form the trilogy; another way to view the Christian doctrine of the trinity.

The spirit travels in the vehicle of time.

So when you say the land belongs to God, not to societies, I think you should explain that one with more depth.

Paul 1405
from Nimbin…How! (Meaning greetings, ((with one hand raised like a Nazi salute))!

The expired certificate will greatly complicate donating, by adding security risk on the web site donation link, (already unworkable by my experience ).

I’m glad to learn I’m not alone. Finally we stand briefly on tha same planet.

DD

We also need to remember that Australia has moved into a post-Christian era, with less than half of Australians calling themselves Christians. To be blunt, God doesn't figure with most Australians any longer and, unfortunately, Yuyutsu's comments, worthy of respect as they are, are not a lot of practical use.

Those of us who are Christians can still face life and deal with it privately. Christianity was 'privatised' with The Elightenment.

That Western values are based on Christianity remains true. Christianity hasn't changed, but values have.

Hi DD,

"HOW" A word of greeting, oft used by "Hollywood Indians" like 'Iron Eyes'Cody from the Sicilian Tribe (Not a Native American at all), who couldn't say "o-co-o-c-yo-o-co" (Cherokee word for HELLO). At least in Hollywood they allowed the "Indian" to utter the word "How!" before the cowboy shot him dead, rather magnanimous of Hollywood, don't you think?

"Christian values" hummmmm, an interesting concept, but what are they?

Paul 1405.

The plight of the North American Indians pushed north into Canada, and off valuable reservations, is a good metaphor for open borders; a creation of the Biden Administration now on full view on the US Southern border. No mercy for anybody anywhere, anytime, standing in the way of progress of the land developers.

Now, generations past of those rewarded by land theft, weep and wail for the wrongs done to the Native by their own ancestors, hand out the money and wellbeing of others, to cleanse their conscience.

Would that be a criticism of you and the radical Greens, Paul do you think: You can say no?

"One's ability to live wherever they wish on God's land is a natural God-given freedom which societies have no moral right to interfere with."

Only if you believe in God.
And only if you can get everyone to agree.

What you want and believe plays second fiddle to reality.
And reality is that you share the planet with many other people other than yourself.
Your god-given right only exists in reality if the other people living on that land allow you to freely exist on 'God's land', or if you eradicate them.

For the purposes of maintaining their existing society;
Access to food and resources which is necessary to sustain their survival, they may well consider the land the be theirs, and be willing to fight and die to protect it from the imposition of interlopers.

Dear Critic,

You Are right, I can only do what I can, I cannot get everyone to agree and would be stupid if I tried, but when it is my turn to speak, I preceive it as my duty and small service to use God's intellectual gifts to me to advocate for Him - in the end it is unlikely for me to ever be called to physically reclaim God's land for Him, but He will surely do so in His own way and time.

Perhaps they might look at giving a cash reward of $1000 in certain circumstances- not citizenship or permanent residency.

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Dear NathanJ,

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1. http://youtu.be/S2fGxefFBh4

2. http://taskandpurpose.com/history/unsung-heroes-the-3-americans-who-stopped-an-armed-gunman-on-a-train-in-france/#:~:text=Two%20American%20servicemen%20and%20a%20college%20student%20quickly,saving%20the%20lives%20of%20everyone%20on%20the%20train.

3. http://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=the+good+samaritan+parable&mid=2A2B994EC4284453473A2A2B994EC4284453473A&FORM=VIRE

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