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Biggest Hit On Christianity Yet

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It is the unelected Australian Law Reform Commission, established in 1975 and currently headed by Judge Mordecai Bromberg, recommending that faith-based schools be F0RCED to employ staff and enrol students whose way of life and beliefs contradict such schools’ religious beliefs.

Many parents, also paying the taxes that support public schools, are prepared to pay extra to protect their children from the secular curriculum, where climate change, identity politics and victimhood, plus neo-Marxist-inspired postcolonial and LGBTIQA+ ideologies are taught.

If this right to choose is lost, there will be no reason to keep Christian schools open, and the public system will be overwhelmed. Why would parents spend money on Christian schools if the teaching is going to be the same as that in public schools - non-Christian.

Ironically, and probably not generally known, but coming from an Anglican Archbishop's office, the then government made an approach to see if the religious system could take over the government education system more economically than they could.

Nothing came of it, obviously; but it shows that we don’t know what governments and their bureaucrats get up to behind our backs. They are not to be trusted. Particularly the Albanese government. Albanese said that he would not touch this area unless he had bipartisans support (unlikely), and has now said he might do a deal with the Greens.

Christianity is not the only religion in Australia, but it's the one copping all the flak. It will be interesting to see if the same loss of freedoms and rights will be visited on Islam, or example, and what the reaction will be.

The ACL reports that both Muslim and Jewish school authorities have shown interest in joining the resistance.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 30 March 2024 12:21:21 PM
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It all boils down to allowing religious schools to be bigoted and discriminatory. Having government funding of "faith" based teaching by only teachers acceptable to the religion, no matter how crazy, weird or ridiculous that teaching might be. The Catholics can bring back those brothers and priest doing time in prison now, to instil a little old fashioned "faith" into children, just like they did in the good old days!
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 30 March 2024 8:21:25 PM
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Dear Ttbn,

«If this right to choose is lost, there will be no reason to keep Christian schools open»

Of course they will remain open - they will just go underground!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Saturday, 30 March 2024 10:12:32 PM
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This won't apply to Islamic schools although it might apply to Jewish ones. No anti-Islam teacher is going to be stupid enough to want to teach in a Mohammedan school where they know the main form of counter-argument is violence.

You can rub the noses of the local Anglicans in it because you know they'll turn the other cheek. No so the followers of Mohamad.

Of course, we can take this anti-discrimination thing further, especially as regards public funding. The annual ponce down Oxford St aka the Madi Gras Parade, is government funded. Its highly discriminatory that the Catholocs aren't allowed to have a float, perhaps one displaying Leviticus 18:22...."You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination."

You know, just to be non-discriminatory.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 31 March 2024 7:02:27 AM
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Yuyutsu

Underground? Just like China, where Christians are still persecuted, underground or not.

Sounds like something Xi-inspired Albanese would be comfortable with; but not of much use to Christians themselves.

In the meantime, the success of growing anti-Semitism in Australia will eventually emboldened the Left to intensity their hatred of Christianity, and people of both faiths will never feel safe again - underground or anywhere else.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 31 March 2024 8:43:47 AM
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Faith-based schools are up front. Parents know what their kids will be taught, the main reason why they choose to opt out of the public system, where teachers still have their personal beliefs, about which parents know nothing, but which can still be passed on, consciously or unconsciously.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 31 March 2024 9:12:36 AM
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ttbn,

Yuyutsu here is correct. If any education type is under threat it will go underground. This has already occurred in Afghanistan under the Taliban. Link provided and there are plenty of others (links) I could provide.

http://news.sky.com/story/secret-safe-houses-and-illegal-schools-life-as-a-woman-under-taliban-rule-12766968
Posted by NathanJ, Sunday, 31 March 2024 9:44:41 PM
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Hi ttbn,
I'm not sure it's a right to choose.
Public school kids don't have any choice, and that might be a bigger problem, since under this education indoctrination regime it's inevitable they (Christian kids)become marginalised and their positions sidelined anyway.

I think it's more of a right to pay.
(And it wont make any difference anyway)
Why does one need to be religious to oppose all the current 'politically and socially correct' indoctrination?

I just watched this Russel Brand video, he pretty much says what I've been saying for years. That Democrats gain the support of minorities to gain power for themselves and the elites. And that democracy is weaponised, its not really proper democracy. The US and the west are not defenders of democracy, they are an affront to it.

http://youtu.be/34KcwH3_ehQ
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 1 April 2024 12:16:16 AM
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Oh almost forgot...
'Biggest hit on Christianity yet'

Did you miss this years overlap?
Transgender Visibility Day just happens to fall on Easter Sunday.

The powers that be talk all this crap about 'tolerance'
It's all bs.
Why couldn't they have weirdo day on some other day other than Easter?
They talk 'tolerance' but they go out their way to create conflict.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 1 April 2024 12:24:00 AM
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Can we compete with China?
No.

Then why do it?
(Billion dollar question)

Perhaps you need to look at at as an effort by the collective west against a chinese monopoly.

I suggest you all watch this Michael Hudson video and get a grasp of the US hegemonic war against China, with US 'rent-seeking' on war related and high tech income producers.
I even wonder if the EU war on farmers is actually meant to make US agricultural exports more profitable, in the same way as blowing up Nordstream for US LNG exports.

http://youtu.be/OFrxgMFbN8c
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 1 April 2024 12:47:25 AM
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Above comment was mistakenly posted here instead of the solar panel thread.
I'm not used to using my mobile phone for OLO instead of my pc, sorry.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 1 April 2024 1:28:26 AM
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Hi AC,

Since you posted it here I'll put this here, competition is not just about "cheapness" you can successfully compete using other factors such as "quality". In the case of solar panels Australia may produce a product 10% dearer that its competitor but with 15% better life. As my old man often say; "Son, you get what you pay for!" Mate if ya ever in my neck of the woods try a hamburger from "Wayne's Take-A-Way" 14 bucks but they are out of this world (Wayne is Chinese), you get the lot, but if ya want a cheapy, there's that well known Scottish bloke down the road with his golden arches and $11 'Big Yucks'
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 1 April 2024 6:13:15 AM
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Underground equals buried. Today few, if any, people are prepared or able to live without government support. Nobody is going underground. Nobody is going to fight back. There is not a single heroic figure in Australia for us to follow; we have allowed ourselves to be reduced to a grey collective.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 1 April 2024 7:51:10 AM
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"Transgender Visibility Day just happens to fall on Easter Sunday."

Well, that's was a big deal only a few freaks will have known about. Most people would be celebrating Easter, even if it meant only stuffing themselves with chocolate and driving bumper to bumper to have a long weekend away.

I can't see, even in Wankstralia, many people celebrating special days for for trendy perversions.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 1 April 2024 8:13:52 AM
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Well here's some transgender news that you can bet won't be visible on the usual locales....

http://www.thecollegefix.com/gender-affirming-therapy-is-not-beneficial-pediatrics-group-concludes/

OTOH transgenders might yet win us a women's world cup...
http://nypost.com/2024/03/27/us-news/outrage-after-flying-bats-soccer-team-goes-undefeated-with-5-transgender-players/
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 1 April 2024 8:23:39 AM
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Dear Ttbn,

Underground just means underground.
Buried from the prying eyes of enemies, but never buried from God's sight.

In 1492 (in Spain, and 1496 in Portugal), the same year when America was discovered, Spanish Jews were ordered by the Inquisition to convert to Christianity or die.

Some managed to escape by boats to northern Africa, and those who successfully made that journey without being captured by pirates, became the Sepharadic Jews (the name derived from 'Sfarad' = Spain).

Many of the remaining Spanish Jews went underground and continued to keep the Jewish customs and traditions in secret, then passed down the same "family secrets" for generations. Some still even today discover such Jewish-based family secrets, come out of hiding and in recognition are being granted citizenship by the Spanish and Portuguese governments.

These people risked not just their money, but their lives too: those who were caught were tortured and burned at the stake. To claim that they only kept their religion for the sake of government support, is to insult their heroic struggle.

Religion has a real and positive content, it is not just a show-off!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 1 April 2024 10:40:06 AM
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Dear ttbn,

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The problem with religious schools is that they tend to conflate and confound the teaching of fact and knowledge with their religious dogma and belief.

That might be fine for the six theocracy countries (Afghanistan, Iran, Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, Vatican City and Yemen) but not for a modern democracy such as Australia that has no official religion and whose Constitution guarantees freedom of thought, conscience, and belief.

We have seen what the conflation and confusion of fact and faith can lead to under the influence of religious zealots in the US.

“Intelligent design” and “creationism” continue to be taught in many schools despite the ruling of the US Supreme Court that such teachings are unconstitutional.

Already in Australia, according to Wikipedia : “Creationist views are popular among religious education teachers and creationist teaching materials have been distributed by volunteers in some schools”.

Secular education and religious education are two distinct domains that must remain separate with absolutely no overlap or interference with each other.

The disastrous track record of religious schools’ betrayal of the trust placed in them as manifested by the disgraceful paedophile pandemic perpetrated by them imposes the utmost caution in all our future dealings.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 1:15:34 AM
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