Shadow Minister,

I have done the same - trying to raise the issue for discussion.

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Now back to the interesting statement of "every culture
deserves its own nation?"

This has been raised many times on this forum - with little
comment.

History has shown that in the case of nations - "might makes
right." Every nation on Earth was built on war, and invasion.
And of course if people want to keep their nation they must
be willing and strong to protect it.

We've seen in central and eastern Europe the collapse of the
Austrian, Ottoman, and Russian empires. Although the Soviet
Union managed to re-absorb parts of its empire. And is still
trying to do that today with Ukraine.

The British are supportive of the independence of new nations
so they claim. But, it took a bloody revolution for them to
think similarly about Ireland (never mind Scotland and Wales).

The national dream also works in opposite ways. In Germany and
Italy it led to diverse groups joining into a single nation.
We have the Baltic nations. They were independent after WWI.
Were swallowed up by the Soviet regime during WWII. Regained their
independence, joined the EU - and have switched from oppression
to co-operation.

Interesting topic.

"...the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must." Thucydides- History of the Peloponnesian War

But the strong usually have a retinue. Education is the key to ensure that we actually get leaders that act in our own interest. And while it's understood that the leaders get more they also take more risk and exert more effort.

Nietzsche was apparently an admirer of Thucydides and a critic of Plato.

This is interesting ... not sure if there are faults with it...

http://cis.org/Report/Jewish-Stake-Americas-Changing-Demography?utm_campaign=addtoany&utm_medium=social-media&utm_source=twitter

"might makes right." is one of the first debates of The Republic and though in a sense it is true there is a warning for the wise.

Some say talk softly but carry a big stick.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Stick_ideology

Foxy - "every culture deserves its own nation"

It depends on how you determine what is a separate culture. The last thing you need is a dozen nations within a single city.

"every culture deserves its own nation"

A recipe fo ra perfect disaster in this world of so much dependence on others.