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The Forum > General Discussion > Another storm another blackout. Renewables rides again.

Another storm another blackout. Renewables rides again.

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Foxy,

I have zero interest in the politics of energy. I just want to see a viable option being pursued. What upsets me greatly is seeing cult leader Albo continue with the ideological renewable energy odyssey, following in the footsteps of fellow morons Scomo and Turnbull.

After about fifteen years of this stupidity renewables have knocked off less than one percent of Australia's power demand per year.

https://aemo.com.au/en/energy-systems/electricity/national-electricity-market-nem/data-nem/data-dashboard-nem

Note that traditional power still does over 85% of the job in Australia, which is why the loss of Loy Yang was a disaster. Note that in fifteen years from the mid 1970s the French supplied 150% of their electricity demand with low carbon nuclear.
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 18 February 2024 3:17:36 PM
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"After about fifteen years of this stupidity renewables have knocked off less than one percent of Australia's power demand per year."

That's because our leaders are unlikeable losers who will lay on the ground in the fetal position and wet themselves at any sign of pressure instead of tell the idiots to p*ss off lead the country properly.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 18 February 2024 3:28:39 PM
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To put it in perspective, the Barakah nuclear power plant in the UAE will produce over 40 terawatt hours of dispatchable power per year. All four 1400 mwe each took under ten years to build at a total cost of less than 40 billion AUD. If the government were to spend its 25 billion renewable energy budget on nuclear energy instead, we could see Australia producing 500 terawatt hours of dispatchable low carbon energy annually in twenty years for a total cost of 500 billion in today's dollars. Total electricity production in Australia in 2022 was 273 terawatt hours. There would be additional cost to upgrade the transmission grid.

https://www.energy.gov.au/energy-data/australian-energy-statistics/data-charts/australian-electricity-generation
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 18 February 2024 7:49:51 PM
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Quite correct Foxy, it was the wind and poor tower design, or
overloading the towers. The latter might well be the cause if they put
extra cables on the towers to cope with solar or wind farms.
You and I have no way of knowing if that was the case.
It needs an enquiry to ask those questions.
If they did overload the towers the very big bill for the extra
10,000 Kms of transmission lines is going to get a lot bigger.
Posted by Bezza, Sunday, 18 February 2024 10:46:52 PM
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Foxy,

So much for your supercilious tone, of course, the winds that felled the towers had something to do with it. However, when did Victoria's power supply become so fragile that the failure of one power supplier could lead to blackouts and load shedding?

The answer is to have backup generation which Liebor has been happily shutting down. If this storm had happened 30 years ago there would not be the blackouts of today.
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 19 February 2024 2:28:52 AM
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Gentlemen,

My apologies for attempting sarcasm in my first post.
The point that I was trying to make was that we do
need to harden the network against future weather
events and improve the system's resilience.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 19 February 2024 9:28:27 AM
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