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Back to the USSR.

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"I doubt anyone could believe that waging war can create prosperity, yet you seem to believe that Russia is doing as much whilst also believing that the democratic world is on the road to ruin by supporting Ukraine."

War causes needless loss of life and mass destruction.
No war ever happened without some innocent person paying a huge price for it.
- Which is why I oppose US overthrows.
Overthrows are 'End's justify the means' terrorist mentality.
I don't support it.

War is also expensive, and a huge burden upon the citizenry as well as the men and women fighting it.

That said, I think standing up to the west is having a positive impact on the soul of the Russian people, and I think that despite the negative impacts of the war and sanctions there has also been positive unintended impacts domestically of boosting production and investment within the country.

'democratic world is on the road to ruin'
Absolutely.
Ukraine was a fools errand from the start and these western people are doubling down on stupid.
They are harming themselves more than the people they intended.

As for 'on the road to ruin', I'd argue it's already in the dustbin.
Watch what Lavrov says at the start of this video.
http://youtu.be/jPVoWRZV3DQ
It's all about threats and bulling - their own allies included.
No different than in Washington itself, it's all threats, bulling blackmail, interests of the oligarch / donor class against the interests of the people - did you see this:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/24/arizona-republican-jeff-dewit-resigns-over-kari-lake-bribe

The fish rots from the head, the reason we have all this crap in the world is because its run by madmen in high places mostly the US, some in the UK and Europe.
Right now its the oligarch and donor class, backers of the Uniparty supporting their favorite Neocon warmongering globalist Nikki Haley (Clone of Hillary) try to beat off Trump.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 25 January 2024 9:38:04 AM
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Baldrick,

You are raving again. The US didn't overthrow the Ukraine.
There are no Nazis in Ukraine.
Russia is not making a profit from the war but is running enormous deficits. Russia will reach 3rd world status soon.
Europe is doing far better than Russia and is ramping up ammunition production.
Russia has had 3 strategic aircraft shot down in 2 days
Russia's black sea fleet is cowering in Russia,
Russia's oil depots and ammunition factories are being blown up

Russia is losing this war.
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 25 January 2024 4:06:59 PM
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Hi AC,

One point to add on Russia's economy is that Putin was helped greatly at the start of the war by the spike in commodity prices, but that is no longer the case. Were it not for China bankrolling the war Russia would have collapsed long ago. China is as much the aggressor as Russia AC, and when Russia runs out of military hardware China will be free to take back whatever territory Russia took from it in the past. Taiwan isn't the only territory in dispute.
Posted by Fester, Thursday, 25 January 2024 6:15:20 PM
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Ukrainians are getting slaughtered badly now.
I've heard numbers of 17 dead Ukrainians for every 1 dead Russian.

Ukrainian media has noted a sharp increase in dead and wounded where as mediazona reports Russian dead and wounded decreasing.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 28 January 2024 5:20:30 PM
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Baldrick,

There is no way that Russia can hold onto the Ukrainian lands it stole. It is heading for bankruptcy, and the sanctions etc costing Russia $bns/ day will never be lifted while it continues to illegally occupy Ukraine.
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 29 January 2024 1:26:18 AM
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Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 29 January 2024 6:08:14 AM
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