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Back to the USSR.

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As the sanctions and the huge costs of Russia's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine drag Russia's economy down, the effects on the population are becoming more obvious. Food inflation is closer to 20% rents are skyrocketing, poverty is widespread and Russians are starting to have to queue for food.

Russia is now spending 40% of its dwindling budget on the war and non-war related industries are collapsing as are the health sector and old age care. Domestic airlines are collapsing, fuel prices are shooting up and due to a shortage of manpower food production is dropping.

The estimated 320,000 casualties that Russia has suffered are beginning to be noticed even after the huge efforts the FSB is making to cover up the losses (such as banning wives of soldiers groups) with the majority of Russians now in favour of ending the war.

Russians are comparing the situation now with the 1980s when the USSR collapsed after being exhausted from the Afghan war.
Posted by shadowminister, Sunday, 17 December 2023 10:55:00 AM
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"Food inflation is closer to 20% rents are skyrocketing, poverty is widespread"
- Are you talking about Australia or Russia ?
I think our food inflation might be a bit higher than 20% though

Most of what you write is blatent lies or wishful thinking from the same people who brought us the fabled 'Ghost of Kiev' and 'Iraqi WMD's'.
- But SM's a bit retarded you see, and he falls for the same BS every single time.

The only story here is that the west failed in it's war against Russia, using the Ukrainians as it's proxy.
Ukraine is not going to take its territory back.
The West has run out of money and weapons and Ukrainians have run out of troops.

The only path to the end of the conflict is Ukraine's unconditional surrender to Russia terms.
Russia will achieve it's goals, Ukraine must denazify, demilitarise and remain neutral from NATO.

This is the price of the Wests foolish and relentless push to expand NATO, including funding right-wing extremist opposition groups and conducting coups any time an elected leader did not support joining NATO.

Ukraine, as well as it's economy and people has been completely destroyed, a generation of it's young men wiped out.

But that's ok, because it's good for US jobs.
The US has the blood of half a million Ukrainians and a million more wounded on it's hands, but that's what the US does.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 17 December 2023 2:22:03 PM
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It didn't take Putin's fanboy Baldrick long to react and start posting Russian propaganda.

The information I post is readily available from reputable sources such as the Russian central bank and other major sources. This idiot keeps reporting clear BS from Russian propaganda sources and is completely unable to provide any reputable sources for his lies.

Here are a few indisputable facts:
Russia is selling less oil and gas at lower prices than it did before its unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.
Russia has announced that it is spending at least 40% of its entire budget on the war effort.
Subsidies have stopped leading to huge fuel cost increases for Russians increasing the cost of production.
Nearly 1 million of the most educated Russians have fled from conscription and nearly 1m have been conscripted to make up for the roughly 320,000 killed or crippled.
food production has struggled with labour shortages and high fuel and machinery costs.
The Ruble has collapsed to about 90 to the $ making imports more expensive.
The Russian airline industry is becoming dangerous and is collapsing.

etc. Russia's economy is not OK and Russia's army is losing men, armour and aircraft faster than it can replace them.

Russia is losing this war.
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 18 December 2023 3:29:07 AM
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"Russia is losing this war."

You see this is the problem right here

Realistically there's no way possible Ukraine can take back it's lost territory, so Ukraine just can't win.

The problem with this war is that Ukrainians have always been focused on taking back territory, even the US expects them to make territorial gains for the weapons and equipment it has sent.

Russian military doctrine on the other hand is not primarily focussed on taking ground.
Their primary aim is to destroy the opposing military including their will to fight.
Russia will half-capture a town, leave it semi-encircled.
They leave it that way on purpose to allow Ukraine to send more men into the cauldron which Russia can annihilate from all directions.
Russia will step back and give up territory on purpose when necessary and re-establish a better defensive line to lure the Ukrainians in.

Ukraine is the defending nation, but Russia (and the West) force Ukraine to attack while the Russians are in defense.

Next batch of Ukrainian recruits look a little iffy. NATO standards?
http://twitter.com/simpatico771/status/1736203919515074844

Stop sending people to die already.
These people have no business fighting the Russian military.
They are not going to achieve any battlefield gains.
They are all going to die like those before them.

80 to 90% of the Ukrainian men dragged off the street and (insufficiently) trained by the West are either dead, or wounded so badly they cannot return to combat.
Dragging this war on is more about Biden trying to save face in an election year, and less about helping Ukraine win, which is now out of the question.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 18 December 2023 5:43:34 AM
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Russia has already lost. But their leadership and their western flying-monkeys can't admit it...even to themselves.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/defence-deal-with-finland-will-give-us-access-to-15-military-bases-on-russian-border/ar-AA1lzcbE
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 18 December 2023 10:10:08 AM
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Has anyone heard of what Cubans think about that conflict ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 18 December 2023 10:14:02 AM
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