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Back to the USSR.

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Hi Fester,
Yes, I heard. An A-50 and an IL-22.
The video I watched last night said the info is not yet confirmed but it may have been an accident, friendly fire.

The Russians Lost 2 Reconnaissance Planes Over The Sea Of Azov. Military Summary For 2024.01.15
http://youtu.be/RJcAyFk99_w
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 7:50:26 AM
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Just after I posted this comment yesterday I came across some more info.
The Russians are saying the Kremlin has no information about such an event, a denial of sorts.

Some say the planes did in fact land and weren't lost.
I've seen images of an IL-22 that was apparently damaged.
- Hard to know the truth on this one.

http://twitter.com/vicktop55/status/1746885340126728209
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 17 January 2024 8:17:53 AM
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Zelensky threatens Putin's children and grandchildren. Huge mistake. "Scarface" Tony Montana vs Sosa
http://youtu.be/XIKqhDFrlE8

Zelensky threatens Putin’s grandchildren
http://www.rt.com/russia/590754-zelensky-davos-putin-grandchildren/
The Ukrainian leader got personal in his speech at the Davos World Economic Forum
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 17 January 2024 11:41:57 AM
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Baldrick,

The A50 worth about $350m was destroyed the IL22 managed to limp back to an airfield, but from the SOS recordings, it was a close thing with several casualties. Also, the photos provided by Russian military bloggers show damage consistent with a missile strike. This plane needs major repairs and will certainly never fly in this war again.

As for friendly fire, this is certainly a strong possibility given the trigger-happy Russian AA crews, but I don't see how this is a positive for Russia. However, from Ukrainian transmissions, it is clear that it was tracking the A50 and was fully aware when it was shot down. That the A50's flight path co-incided with the range of the patriot system, an ambush similar to the 3 Su34s shot down recently is also highly probable.

Russia is losing this war on all fronts:

The last 6 months have seen massive casualties in Russian manpower, tanks planes, helicopters etc far faster than Russia can replace them.
Similarly, the Russian economy is circling the drain. With the huge diversion of funds and manpower to the military, all other sectors are suffering.
Russians are freezing because heating cannot be maintained, the car industry is Kaput, and the health system is so focused on wounded soldiers that everyone else struggles for even basic health services.
The Russian domestic airline system is collapsing due to sanctions and the government is running a deficit of about $15bn per month.

All of this will be exacerbated when the West confiscates $300bn of Russian savings and gives it to Ukraine to rebuild and fight Russia.

Resistance is starting in Russia and Putin's time to conduct this war is shrinking.
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 18 January 2024 2:42:23 AM
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It's funny you know SM

I listen to ex-diplomats, ex-military, military analysts, legal experts, political scientists etc.

- And you listen to Joe Bloggs

Why is it that all the people I listen to say the western narrative you sell is total bs?

Watch this video, this is live from Russia, they laugh at suggestions the economy is suffering, they are grateful for the sanctions.
http://www.youtube.com/live/Qr_lqNKNhZw
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 19 January 2024 2:37:49 AM
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Baldrick,

Joe Blogs is not the only person I listen to. These include experts from various places including Yale, and Harvard, and specialists in measuring economic progress. They all use data from Russia's central bank, global oil and gas prices, production, etc and are clear about where the gaps in their predictions are.

You, however, rely solely on trolls from twitter or Youtube. You really are a joke.
Posted by shadowminister, Friday, 19 January 2024 4:24:24 AM
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