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Back to the USSR.

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Baldrick,

Please stop posting the lies from the Russian MOD you just make yourself look stupid. You have long been claiming that Russia had destroyed 4x as many aircraft as it ever had and tanks, etc that they never had.

The figures of tanks, APVs aircraft and helicopters produced that you claim are so far above Russia's capabilities as to be ludicrous.

Russia is making about 40 new tanks monthly; any more are antiques dragged out of long storage that are "upgraded" with a lick of paint. If Russia delivered 5 new aircraft in 2023 it would be a lot, the same goes for helicopters. In 2023 Russia delivered 6000t of new shipping while Ukraine sunk 11000t of Russian shipping.

Ukraine has never used meat wave attacks which is why their casualties are a fraction of Russia's. Russia uses meat wave attacks because their tanks and APVs are usually destroyed before even reaching the front lines.

As for 1500 men volunteering for service a day, it is probably closer to 15 as most know that it is a death sentence and there is no rotation.

Russia's winter offensive has been an abject failure with horrific casualties, Russia's economy is circling the drain and Russia is losing this war.

Russia's army is not even the most combat-capable in Ukraine.
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 8 January 2024 6:26:58 AM
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"Ukraine has never used meat wave attacks."
What do you think happened when your counteroffensive had failed and Ukraine was sending troops in through minefields on foot?

Ukraine are the experts of meat wave attacks.

"As for 1500 men volunteering for service a day, it is probably closer to 15 as most know that it is a death sentence and there is no rotation."
[SM pops fingers in ears - screams 'I'm not listening!!'
- You buy into every lie and piece of CIA produced Ukrainian propaganda there is, you even make things up to suit your own winning narrative.
Go find some beheaded babies and some Iraqi WMDs, you fool.
Maybe you can cheer on some dead women and kids.

I'm going to really enjoy the Ukrainian military and political collapse.
Even more so to see how you'll chuck the tantrum of the century.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 8 January 2024 8:49:31 AM
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It will be interesting to see what lasts longer - the Russia/Ukraine conflict or this bullsh-t fest.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 8 January 2024 9:09:24 AM
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How stupid could you be.

You spend billions overthrowing the country, spend years building up the military, spend years killing civilians in the Donbass trying to provoke a war with Putin, then you finally get what you want.

Then you advertise your counteroffensive plan, telling yourself "We don't need air support, the Russians will run away"
(That's what your war plan was based on - let's believe all our own false rhetoric 'Russia is just a gas station masquerading as a country'
- Lets advertise our plans, lets underestimate our adversary.

Then the US warmongers get their asses handed to them spectacularly.
Their whole entire war plan is laid to waste, along with the army the west built for it, without achieving anything.

It would've been better for Ukraine if those 100,000 troops just committed suicide instead.
At least you might still have the equipment to have a real crack at breaking the Russian defensive lines, but now you don't.

Idiots in America and Europe running around saying 'We can't let Putin win', lol.
You lost the war you started yourselves already.
It's gold. Priceless.

The display of incompetence is astounding.
Great job demilitarising the West, deindustrialising Europe and helping to make Russia and China stronger.

This current leadership class are so incompetent, they don't need an enemy to destroy their own nations.

Look at them.
We promote the least competent.
They're promoted through loyalty to the party and the elites, not their own ability or merit to do whats needed to be done for the best interests of the people.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 8 January 2024 9:10:31 AM
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Baldrick,

You stupidly cheered the Russians deliberately killing women and children all the while parroting Russian propaganda. You are consistently wrong in declaring the Russian destruction of equipment that was never there, that the Kharkiv offensive was a trap set by the Russians, that Ukraine would never liberate Kherson city etc. Your record of being wrong is nearly 100%.

Now you are making up impossible production figures for tanks etc. How stupid are you really? Russia is not the USSR. Russia's GDP is about 10% bigger than Australia's and a little more than 1/2 that of the UK. Its industry is focused on oil and gas and its manufacturing has been gutted much of it used to be in Ukraine such as its helicopter engines and parts for its jets and much of the avionics came from the West.

Russia has a manpower shortage as since the first illegal invasion in 2014 nearly 4 million highly productive Russians have fled and the army and war production has led to food shortages with shelves bare of eggs and chicken and rampant inflation.

There is already resistance growing in Russia with wives and mothers demanding the return of their husbands and sons.

Russia is losing this war.
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 8 January 2024 12:15:37 PM
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"You stupidly cheered the Russians deliberately killing women and children all the while parroting Russian propaganda."

I never cheered on anyone killing anyone.
I supported a negotiated settlement, and still do.

"Your record of being wrong is nearly 100%."
- I don't care if I am so long as the neoconservative warmongers fail.

"Now you are making up impossible production figures for tanks etc. How stupid are you really?"

This what the Russian MOD stated.
There's plenty of articles in the Washington Post and NYT about how the West including Europe being unable to match Russian military production, and that the West will also run out of Patriot interceptors soon.

Your arguments are the arguments of foreign Russia haters, who cherry-pick a few small things and then try to make a mountain out of nothing.
Putin's approval rating is still around 80%.
If the West is so stupid it thinks that deliberately bombing civilians will create civil unrest and a political crisis that might lead to Putins ousting, then they are idiots.
It's going to create the opposite, unify the Russians against the Western threat and harden their resolve to win.

That was their whole plan you know.
It was never about Ukrainian military conquest.
It was about creating a political crisis in Russia that would lead to Putin's ousting.
Somehow Americas think Russian will embrace the idea of installing western puppet rulers like Navalny.
They are desperate and deranged.

'Russia is losing this war.'
Ukraine are the ones losing men and short on weapons, ammunition and money to fund the country.
They're also the ones losing territory so I'm not sure what delusional metrics you base your argument on.
Wishful thinking is about all you've got there SM
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 8 January 2024 1:10:06 PM
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