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Protection Money: Voice Funding By Corporations

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The head of BHP has admitted that the $2 million they donated to the Yes campaign was to keep sweet with 'traditional owners' on whose land they mine.

Self-interest, in other words.

Wasted money that might have made a real difference if BHP was genuine and spent it directly on remote communities.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 2 November 2023 12:40:44 PM
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WTF?

ttbn says:

"Wasted money that might have made a real difference if BHP was genuine and spent it directly on remote communities."

Yet a yes outcome for the Voice vote would have given Indigenous Australians a say in how money could have been spent on remote communities - and it would have been a lot more then $2 million.

You can't make this stuff up if you wanted to.
Posted by WTF? - Not Again, Thursday, 2 November 2023 6:36:41 PM
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the Voice vote would have given Indigenous Australians a say in how money could have been spent on remote communities

WTF? - Not Again,
No, because it has been proven for decades now that that doesn't happen. Isn't it about time that people learnt a bit about what's going on ?
ATSIC & NIAA were specifically created to do exactly what the Voice was proposed for & the NIAA is in fact still in place but its way of operating is a different story ! A kind of Voice story !
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 3 November 2023 5:22:24 AM
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Indyvidual

There's no point arguing with Fwits who can't face up to being a minority after the routing of the Voice. They will never get over it. They will continue to whine and blame everybody but themselves for musjudging and treating with contempt the still-there silent majority, who are not going to be bullied by them, by Albanese the Trot, by public servants and by big corporations.

The going down of the divisive, racist Voice might be looked back on as the turning point against the left-lunacy that has occurred since Albanese, and before him, the appalling Morrison, who believed in nothing.

If people can bear to tear themselves away from the mainstream media, social media, smart phones, plastic politicians, and all that crap, they will find that the worm is gradually turning.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 3 November 2023 8:10:23 AM
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WTF?

ttbn - nobody on this thread is disputing the result of the referendum - why would they?

ttbn is the one who seems to have trouble moving on - why bother to start a thread about it?

Some people (myself included) voted yes.

Some corporations supported the yes vote (such is the nature of referendums).

Do some people honestly think this was not the case?

But it appears ttbn wants to whinge about that weeks after the result.

After some name-calling he then talks about being treated with contempt and being bullied - as I've pointed out before, a fiction writer couldn't make up a character that demonstrated such a bewildering lack of self-awareness.
Posted by WTF? - Not Again, Friday, 3 November 2023 9:44:43 AM
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As I said. There us no point in arguing with Fwits, and I'm not going to.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 3 November 2023 10:07:23 AM
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Dear indyvidual,

What in the hell are you talking about?

The NIAA is not a representative body like ATSIC was. It doesn't even have a board, just a CEO appointed by the same minister she reports directly to.

It is basically a government department, doing the government's bidding, and carrying out government policy.

It is in no way shape or form a Voice.

The 'Voice' of the No campaign was Warren Mundine. He is the chairman of Fuse Metals, a mining exploration company heavily backed by Gina Rinehart's son Patrick.

That is raw self interest if I've ever seen it.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 3 November 2023 10:09:39 AM
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All taxpayer funding of remote communities should be immediately withdrawn, & not a cent more wasted. We have spent billions supporting the fallacy that these places are good for aboriginal communities, & have totally proven they just don't work for anyone.

As with graziers, if people want to live way out in the sticks that is their right, but they have no right to expect tax payers to fund that right. If todays aboriginals can not support themselves off the land, then they should move to where they can support themselves, just as everyone else does. We do not need a tax payer funded stone age zoo.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 3 November 2023 11:50:11 AM
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The so-called 'gap' is caused by some aborigines choosing to live in remote areas and putting a gap between themselves and modern Australian society where 80% of Australians with an aboriginal background are to be found living and working, getting educated.

Nothing will close that gap until people voluntarily living in isolation decide to close it. Nothing can be done by a surrogate elite paid lots of money and living in capital cities.

Traditional aboriginal culture is no longer practical or appropriate for Australia. It ceased to be relevant in 1788.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 3 November 2023 12:30:40 PM
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Dear Hasbeen,

How's it going old cock? Good?

Fully agree. These rural Shires which cost taxpayers 8 times the per capita rate of our cities really need to fend for themselves for infrastructure. Providing services and things such as roads needs to be done on the basis of how productive areas are. If farm produce needs transporting then specific roads get supplied. Otherwise suck it up.

The worst are those little semi rural hamlets full of retirees sucking off the taxpayer's teat. They need to return to the cities where the costs of looking after them are greatly reduced.

Bring it on.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 3 November 2023 3:12:40 PM
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It is in no way shape or form a Voice.
SteeleRedux,
NIAA
Our Vision
to lead and coordinate Commonwealth policy development, program design and implementation and service delivery for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples;
to provide advice to the Prime Minister and the Minister for Indigenous Australians on whole-of-government priorities for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples;
to lead and coordinate the development and implementation of Australia’s Closing the Gap targets in partnership with Indigenous Australians; and
to lead Commonwealth activities to promote reconciliation.
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 3 November 2023 6:48:17 PM
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semi rural hamlets full of retirees sucking off the taxpayer's teat
SteeleRedux,
Yes, the hordes of ex bureaudroids turned hobby farmers on their salary sacrificed & negative gearing acreages are the real culprits on the Govt teats.
The blue collar pensioners who generally built their homes with their own hands & paid the full Tax rates hardly get any of those handouts.
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 4 November 2023 7:49:42 AM
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I wonder where SR gets the "These rural Shires which cost taxpayers 8 times the per capita rate". This sounds like more of his drivel that he has no basis for.
Posted by shadowminister, Wednesday, 8 November 2023 9:00:13 AM
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It really shouldn't take four days to prove my argument wrong !
Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 8 November 2023 8:07:36 PM
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