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Buyer's remorse.

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It looks like Labor's honeymoon is well over. The voice was a disaster and the voters lay the blame squarely at Albo's feet.

"Voters have swung sharply against the federal government in key states that helped secure victory for Anthony Albanese at the last election, with Labor losing significant ground in Western Australia and Victoria in the lead-up to the voice referendum.

Approval of the Prime Minister’s performance as a leader also suffered a steep decline over the past six months, with large falls in South Australia, where he chose to launch the voice campaign, and in Queensland, where Labor’s primary vote is at its lowest.

An exclusive state-by-state and demographic Newspoll analysis shows that while Labor maintained its dominant election-­winning lead over the Coalition nationally, there was a notable loss of support for the government among male and younger voters, with the Greens securing strategic demographic gains among professional women.

The analysis reveals significant shifts in party support for Labor in Victoria and WA and a loss of satisfaction with Mr Albanese as leader over the six months prior to the referendum."
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 23 October 2023 9:52:48 AM
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Shadow Minister,

The Liberal Party will take care of Peter Dutton
themselves. I was surprised when the man was
chosen as leader. He certainly does not represent
the Liberal Party that my family voted for
for so many decades. It's a pity that Josh Frydenberg
lost his seat to a Teal.

Dutton continues to be un popular with voters. The Guardian
tells us that "There has been a two percent drop in the
Opposition leader's approval in a month (38% to 36%) and
43 of respondents continue to disapprove of his performance.

There's more at the following:

http://theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/oct/17/majority-of-voters-want-labor-to-support-indigenous-australians-but-are-split-on-how-guardian-essential-poll
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 23 October 2023 5:13:44 PM
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Shadow Minister,

I left out this bit from The Guardian Essential Poll:

"While Dutton is keen to use the resumption of
parliament to keep pressure on the Prime Minister
after the Voice rebuff - the latest poll shows
the Prime Minister's approval ratings have been steady
since July. More voters continue to approve of the
Prime Minister's performance than disapprove (46% to 43%)."
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 23 October 2023 5:27:37 PM
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Dutton continues to be un popular with voters.
Foxy,
Only with the brainwashed parasitic !
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 23 October 2023 7:32:40 PM
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Dutton might not be a favourite, and he needs to pull his finger out.

But, Albanese is a disaster. The blame for the divisiveness and nastiness of the Voice is all down to him. He is a disgrace and and an ongoing threat to democracy.

Dutton and the Coalition have now come out against Albanese's intended totalitarian censorship of freedom of speech. What they also need to do is promise to dump the Net Zero burden, gives us back cheap electricity, and the next election will be theirs, no matter what people think of Dutton.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 23 October 2023 9:40:39 PM
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Personally, I'm not keen on Labor or Liberal at the moment but
If the Labor government is going to bring in censorship of free speech and debate. I will vote for anyone that gets it stopped.

Why should any government get to say what is true or not. That is like
the Chinese government or Russia.controlling what the public are allowed to know. That is so far from Democracy and so Authoritarian.
That Albanese and the Labor Party should try to control free speech makes me extremely distrustful of them.

I would vote for independents like the ones who had the honesty to want enquiries made into giving children and babies the Covid vaccine
Posted by CHERFUL, Monday, 23 October 2023 11:09:44 PM
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Village idiot,

Despite your attempted spin, the fact is if an election was held tomorrow Labor would romp in, and your man Dud Dutton would be out on his ear, just like how your man Trump was done in America. Governments have a low point in the election cycle, and its generally about halfway through the term. Labor is having one now.

Hi Foxy,

I can understand how Dud Dutton got the gig, when Coco The Clown pulled out of the race, BTW have you seen the "talent" on the Noalitions front bench. Please, stop laughing. As for Friedbrain, well what can I say. his mates down at the Big End Of Town, true to their word for past favours, gave him a sop job on big bucks, when he was unceremoniously booted from parliament.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 5:09:32 AM
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Foxy,

Newspolls tend to be far more accurate than essential poll which invariably skews towards Labor. The section I quoted comes directly from Newspoll the single most reliable polling system in Aus.

As for Labor's IR laws:

"If the government’s 784-page “close the loopholes” blueprint for conducting business in Australia passes the Senate, Peter Dutton is highly likely to become the next prime minister.

Just like in the early days of the voice referendum proposal few, including most government politicians, have studied the detail and understand that the blueprint represents an unprecedented attack on the sort of people who dominate the less affluent electorates that voted No.

In the vicinity of 75 per cent of the ALP’s 77 seats in the House of Representatives voted No and a large number will simply not stand for their elected representatives again supporting actions favouring the views of the affluent rather than ordinary Australians.

The 784-page business blueprint is really a multitude of different actions, so people keep discovering new horrors as they study the pages, particularly the nasties hidden in the 500-page explanatory memorandum.

The latest horror to be revealed is that Australia’s 2.7 million casual workers are destined for a cash pay cut if the legislation passes.
Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 5:13:10 AM
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Village idiot,

Are you and Jono Doig trying to become opposition leaders? Adam Bent and other Jew-haters from the Greens are not doing so well either. Maybe you lot should rename the Greens to the Hamas lite?

The point is not that Labor is in immediate danger, but that Labor has suffered substantial damage. Albozo started the year with a large positive approval rating which is now close to zero. When this happened to KRudd he got knifed.
Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 5:31:50 AM
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There you go again playing your roll as the Village idiot, with your preoccupation with paedophiles. Obviously you "get off" on the subject. On another thread you claimed the Nazi Einsatzgruppen (death squads) had some kind of "morality" about them. You are a very strange fellow indeed.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 6:09:38 AM
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I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on these issues.
I do not approve of Peter Dutton's leadership. And, As
for Labor's disinformation Bill. I feel that once again
there's too much being posted that simply is not true.
The Bill is not going to empower anybody to censor
freedom of speech.

That's a furphy once again being spread.
It will merely call media platforms to account but it won't
give them the power to delete material.

Dear CHERFUL,

Glad to see you posting once again. Welcome back!
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 8:23:42 AM
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Can someone give me a link to this bill, I'd like to read exactly what it's proposing.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 8:53:38 AM
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Armchair Critic,

You gave the link on page 17 of the "Peter Dutton - Political
Stirrer," discussion:

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/oct/01/why-is-labors-bill-on-combating-disinformation-so-controversial
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 9:52:19 AM
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Village idiot,

You are a Gold Star village idiot and outright liar.

The article to which I linked showed that the Nazis at least had some shame when they murdered civilians whereas Hamas and the Greens have none. The Greens are the party with the greatest number of convicted paedophiles, it appears that you have no shame either.

With regards to the failed referendum, this was a colossal cock up, and Albozo now looks like a complete loser. Not a good look one year into a new government.
Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 12:27:42 PM
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Foxy,

No one on the left likes Dutton because he humiliated Albozo. Maybe you should read more than only far-left publications. Many people think he is doing a sterling job.
Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 12:48:26 PM
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Shadow Minister,

We shall have to agree to disagree on Peter Dutton
and the fact that you think that he's doing a good job.
The people I've spoken to (and there's many) think
that our PM is the one doing a good job.

You should take your own advice and not keep on being
influenced by the Murdoch media. Try to maintain a more
balanced viewpoint.

Peter Dutton has never been interested in the merits or
otherwise of the Voice. He's been merely interested in
how it can be used to damage Labor. Dutton was always going
to oppose any referendum Albanese proposed.

There is nothing that Albanese could have proposed that
would have drawn Coalition support.

There was always a NO campaign ready and waiting in the wings
for anything relating to First Nations people fueled by
mining magnates, wealthy right-wingers and fueled by malignant
people online.

Nevertheless we now get the myth that had Albanese been a
better campaigner, had proposed a different question, or
had delayed the referendum or had been less (or more)
ambitious or somehow done something different the result
would have been different.

High-octave nonsense. The YES campaign is being targeted as
being ineffectual. That a smarter-targeted campaign - had
it been run could have defeated all the vicious forms of
intolerance and misinformation thats fueled the NO
campaign.

Some pretext will always be confected - that's the way the
Coalition works. And that's why they will keep on
losing elections. A change is necessary - starting with its
current leadership.

Bring back Josh Frydenberg!
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 1:31:02 PM
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Foxy,

A little bit of a fib there I see. Dutton originally supported the voice but made it clear that he wanted it limited to parliament only not every level of government and public service. Albozo is the one who rejected any compromise.

As far as vicious misinformation and lies the YES campaign provided more than the No campaign.

Finally, I read widely incl the Guardian, clearly, you don't.
Posted by shadowminister, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 3:50:24 AM
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Shadow Minister,

I have no wish to argue with you.

My research is thorough.

Always was, always will be.

Whereas -

Your information lacks a great deal of facts.
Which to me indicates that your research and reading
is narrow and limited. You choose to believe it therefore
any further discussion is pointless.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 8:17:34 AM
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About the only good thing about Airbus Albo, is that he spends so much time flying out of the country it gives him less time to stuff more things up.

What a picture of idiots, Albo & Biden together on the news last night. How the once mighty West has fallen.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 12:13:12 PM
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Foxy,

Your research is thoroughly inept and lacking in depth. I defy you to point out anything that I have posted that is incorrect
Posted by shadowminister, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 4:49:30 PM
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My research is thorough.
Foxy,
Parroting other ignoramuses is not research !
Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 6:31:47 PM
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Village idiot,

I (Village idiot) defy you to point out anything that I have posted that is incorrect.

You said, 'Cry Baby' Porter was in for $10+ million plus in compensation, a groveling apology from the ABC, and 100 ABC staff sacked to pay for it all. Got that one wrong BUDDY!

BTW, You being a man of letters and all, were you the defence lawyer for that NOALITION kiddy fiddler grub in WA JAMES HAYWARD MP. Maybe you told Jimmy The Grub you'd get him of light!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1jNbMQs9YE
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 10:44:16 PM
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Village idiot,

You are once again proving yourself a LIAR and a FRAUD. Don't misquote me.

How's your mate Jono Doig?
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 26 October 2023 1:55:35 AM
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Shadow Minister,

I'm not interested in arguing with you -
And drawing your attention to your posting record
would not achieve anything productive.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 26 October 2023 8:26:33 AM
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shadowminister,

Every bloody thread you are back out banging on about paedophiles.

I have told you before it displays an unhealthy fixation which can't help raise questions about projection on your behalf. If it is something you are struggling with then get assistance. If it isn't and there is something else at play then do the same, get help.

Either way it definitely isn't a good look.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 26 October 2023 8:43:57 AM
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Stoolreflex,

When the village idiot starts lying and defaming people it is good to remind him of the monsters and animals that call themselves Greens.

It was the German greens that tried to legalise sex with children:

http://newrepublic.com/article/120379/german-green-party-pedophilia-scandal

As for your sensitivity to this issue, perhaps it is too close to home for you.
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 26 October 2023 10:15:13 AM
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Village idiot,

All you have is some far right nonsense from the extremist Nazi's and their "The New Republic", relating to a German political party that has no relationship with the Australians Greens. Should I associate the Coalition with the reprobates in the British Conservative Party! Now you are trying to associate SteeleRedux with paedophilia. Get off you jerk!

"As for your (SteeleRedux) sensitivity to this issue (pedophila), perhaps it is too close to home for you (implying SteeleRedux may well be a paedophile)." This is how this gutless grub operates.

Hi Steele,

This is the same gutless grub who had a cry to the Moderator a couple of months back, because I associated him with the Christchurch terrorist and murderer Brenton Tarrant, he couldn't take it, but he thinks he's is at liberty to post 100's of innuendos that I am a friend and associate of these paedophile grubs. Sometimes I hit back, like I did in a post here recently, but he's likely to have another one of his school boy whinges to the head master if I'm not careful.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 26 October 2023 10:48:27 AM
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Village idiot,

You cockroach, not only have you complained continuously to the moderator, but you are also the most suspended member of OLO, and the last time you didn't just associate me with Brendan Tarrant you outright defamed me.

As for Stoolpidgeon, he ignored the fact that you brought up "kiddie fiddlers" first on this thread and tried to imply that I had problems, clearly, he is in greater need of help.
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 26 October 2023 12:10:09 PM
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Village idiot,

You pepper threads all over this Forum with your paedophile claims and innuendos against me, 100's of them, so don't try and take the moral high ground with; "you brought up "kiddie fiddlers" first on this thread" does that negate your past 3 years, that's how long you've been here, of reference after reference on the subject. Why are you so preoccupied with such a disgusting subject? I've even taken to turning your own insults back at you! 99% of your posts are preoccupied with Foxy, SteeleRedux, myself and paedophiles. Wake up and stop being a jerk off.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 26 October 2023 2:52:58 PM
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Conservative commentator, Rowan Dean, believes that Albanese has become an albatross around Labor’s neck, and has no hope of winning a second term.

"If we had a referendum on every one of Albanese’s major culture war issues – global warming, net-zero, transgenderism in schools – we’d get the same result, 62 to 32 each time."

Dutton’s pathway to the lodge is to "follow the template of the campaign on the Voice".

The culture wars have to be fought. Morrison didn’t, and got the flick.

Roy Morgan now shows Labor at 49.5% and the Coalition at 51.5%.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 26 October 2023 3:30:43 PM
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Village idiot,

Stop being such a huge masturbater you accuse me but you are the prime perpetrator. Idiot.

Every bloody thread you are back out banging on about paedophiles.

I have told you before it displays an unhealthy fixation which can't help raise questions about projection on your behalf. If it is something you are struggling with then get assistance. If it isn't and there is something else at play then do the same, get help.
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 26 October 2023 3:55:55 PM
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shadowminister,

Now you have taken to copying and pasting what SteeleRedux posted, what a sick confused dude you really are. SERIOUSLY, Steele is right, you need a lot of help. Obviously you hold some very dark secrets inside of your twisted mind, even at your advanced time of life, get help and get better before its too late!
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 26 October 2023 7:10:58 PM
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Village idiot,

Grow up, your fascination with kiddie fiddlers makes you a sick puppy.

Get some help.
Posted by shadowminister, Friday, 27 October 2023 3:30:18 AM
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shadowminister,

A quick look for who kicked of the peodophile talk on this thread shows it was clearly you.

"Are you and Jono Doig trying to become opposition leaders?"

Why have you tried to claim it was paul1405 when it clearly wasn't?

Has it just become that subconscious for you now?

Further illustration of it being an unhealthy fixation.

Get some help.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 28 October 2023 10:52:03 AM
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Stoolpigeon,

What is your unhealthy fixation with the village idiot? and/or the convicted paedophiles in the Greens?

You need to get some serious help
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 30 October 2023 6:56:40 AM
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