Paul

Well that's a spray. I mention what an ex-politician says about certain Greens (there were a couple of Teals who earned the title too) and you drag up Pauline, who, I thought the other day, didn't have much to say about the Voice. I learnt afterwards that she was disappointed by the fact that she wasn't invited/allowed to write a few words for a pamphlet. Maybe she got the huff and said, "Bugger youse".

She has nothing to do with what Conroy said about the Greens (she would have a lot worse to say). But you seem to be fascinated by the woman, so I'll try to answer your totally irrelevant questions.

. I don't say you or anyone else should be voting for her. One Nation is just one of the options I suggested.

. She is not lying. Howard, and possibly Abbott, stitched her up. Howard was s… frightened of her.

. Whoever in the Labor Party thought Conroy was right wing should have switched over to the Greens if they thought that,

. There is no "far right" of the Liberal Party. There is no right wing of the Liberal Party. Most of them should join the Greens.

. I don't have a clue what Conroy thinks about anything else. Just his opinion of the Greens is one that attracted my attention.

. Who you choose to call "filth" is up to you.

It really has been a stark contrast between Dutton and Albo hasn't it.

Albanese stayed the course even when there were loud calls to postpone the referendum. Why? Because it was a firm election commitment and he made sure he fulfilled it, something which has become increasingly rare among political leaders.

Dutton on the other hand made a commitment for a second referendum on Indigenous recognition in the Constitution and immediately walked it back when the No vote prevailed.

It clearly illustrates what a venal man he really is and how little commitments mean to him.

For that alone he should be despised by those who bang on about how untrustworthy politicians are on OLO. But no, they will make up the usual conga line licking his boots.

It really is pathetic.

"It really has been a stark contrast between Dutton and Albo hasn't it" SR. Yes SR you are right about that.

You could see the conniving shining our of Albanese, along with his hate for the ordinary Ozzie who won't fall for the hard left push.

Dutton may have poor presentation, making him less than effective, but he is not after the average citizen's guts & life style. Lets hope more Ozzies wake up to what a nasty hateful little man Albo is.

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Foxy describes Dutton as “not a good record and example - for inclusion and unification as a leader of an egalitarian nation proclaiming a Fair Go for all”.

Jusephus declares : “until the renegades stop talking of racial division by 'them' and "us" there will not be any settled Australia. A flourishing society functions as one cooperating family”.

SteeleRedux observes : “Dutton … made a commitment for a second referendum … and immediately walked it back when the No vote prevailed …illustrat[ing] what a venal man he really is and how little commitments mean to him”.

The Essential Report indicates the main reason “to vote No” was : “It will divide Australia in the constitution on the basis of race” – which, of course, is already the case :

http://ulurustatement.org/professors-and-voice-advocates-highlight-racist-elements-already-in-australias-constitution/
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The majority of non-indigenous voters considered the YES vote as racially discriminating and the majority of indigenous voters considered the NO vote as racially discriminating.

It’s a catch-22 situation in which everybody has a valid but often conflicting argument.

Nevertheless, as the declared objective is the same for everybody, it should be possible to find common ground for compromise despite the current divergent points of view.
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For the sake of ttbn who “can't find any evidence” of “Tony Abbott's proposed preamble to the Constitution”, here is a video of his Sky News interview by Paul Murray in 2022 in which he declared :

« … the right recognition would be something like inserting in the preamble after the words ‘one indissoluble federal commonwealth’, something like this: ‘With an Indigenous heritage, a British foundation and an immigrant character’, because all these three things are undoubtedly true.” » :

http://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/paul-murray/tony-abbott-very-much-in-favour-of-recognising-indigenous-people-in-constitution/video/1b193c5fbf6a3e276d3ba31c2975525d

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Once again - Thank you all for your diverse points
of view. We can be grateful that in this country we
are able to agree or disagree without resorting to
violence. Hopefully that will continue to be true
into the future. Hatred and terrorism we need to
keep at bay. And with the right leadership we should
be able to do so. Choosing divisive leadership ,
especially anyone who displays bullying tactics with
a total lack of compassion is not wise. We need to
only look at what's happening in other parts of the
world. We don't want this to happen here.

We need leaders who keep their promises, who are
willing to consult and negotiate, and who are for
inclusion not division. Peter Dutton falls short on all
counts.

Dear Hasbeen,

How's it going old cock? Good?

So nothing in your post about politicians keeping election promises. That used to be huge for you back in the day. What's happened? Do you just not care anymore?

I do. I hold politicians who keep their promises in higher stead than those who don't. I am particularly disdainful of those who make promises to support their position on an issue then drop them as soon as the issue has been resolved in their favour.

You obviously aren't.

But look, if that is your standard now then so be it. However I will say that once your views were at least backed up with a little integrity even if I disagreed with them, it is hard to see it now