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Peter Dutton Please Explain

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Peter Dutton as Home Affairs Minister liked to portray himself as the; "Touch cop on the beat" when it came to dealing with criminals and undesirables entering Australia. Dutton when in government made a lot of political capital with his tough stance on refugees. Now, according to Labor's Home Affairs Minister Clare O'Neil; "people with criminal convictions "walked into the country" on Peter Dutton's watch. "And on his watch, foreign criminals oversaw large rings of human trafficking including slavery and other forms of labour exploration." Most might think this is nothing more than O'Neil attempting political point scoring off Dutton. What O'Neil has to back up her claims about Dutton is the 'Rapid Review' into the Exploitation of Australia's Visa System, conducted by former Victoria Police chief commissioner Christine Nixon. The report found "grotesque abuses" of temporary migrants including sexual exploitation and human trafficking. While Dutton was minister and during the almost ten years of the Coalition in power immigration compliance staff was cut by one third! These cuts along with a fixation with refugees entering Australia, allowed foreign criminal gangs a free hand to exploit a weak immigration control system, bring in sex slaves and underpaid workers from third world countries.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 7:39:43 PM
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I'm not interested in politicians slagging each other off. They are all rubbish.

Australian governments, irrespective of brand, need to crack down on immigration before we end up like Sweden, where it has been announced that , because of "irresponsible immigration", it is now their intention to use troops to help police in the fight against immigrant gangs and immigrant drug dealers.

The immigration policies of the Liberal/Labor duopoly have been 'irresponsible' for years. Ever since the Howard government said that 'we' - meaning he - would decide who came here, then jacked up the legal immigrant numbers to an unprecedented level.

There is nothing to choose between Liberal or Labor when it comes to immigration lunacy, nor is there anything to choose between the sleaziness of politicians themselves .
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 10:05:06 PM
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Have to agree TTBN both bunches of sleazoids push the same mass immigration nonsense without consulting the people, old mate Pauly just wants to have a shot at Mr Dutton and the libs
Posted by FireballXL5, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 11:01:06 PM
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What I'm doing is pointing out the hypocrisy of Dutton and the Noalition on yet another area of immigration, their deliberate failure to deal with illegal human trafficking into Australia whilst in government. Maybe they seen the exploitation of sex slaves and low paid illegal workers as legitimate "free enterprise" activity in the labour market, I don't know. What I do know is on the Noalition's watch immigration compliance staff numbers were cut from a high of 360 under Labor, to an under resourced level of 203, that's 157 less front line people investigating illegal immigration into Australia. Whilst the peanut gallery of sycophantic Noalition supporters were cheering Dutton and co's supposed tough stance on refugees, Dutton as minister left the front door wide open for criminal gangs to exploit the system. Labor has committed an extra $50 million to re-establish the integrity of the visa system. The Nixon report shows that the Noalition with Dutton as leader cannot be trusted with immigration policy when in government.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 5 October 2023 3:49:57 AM
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Just another case of Public Servants not doing what they're getting paid for & then blaming those who trusted them enough to give them the privilege of a job !
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 5 October 2023 5:40:01 AM
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Hi Paul,

It is concerning that deficiencies in our immigration system
are such that criminal gangs from around the world would
find Australia attractive to operate in.

When we're told that between 2013 and 2022 the number of
immigration compliance staff was cut from 360 to 203 - that
should ring alarm bells.

The current government should act quickly and restore
compliance staff resources as well as funding to the
2013 levels. The integrity of the visa system needs to
be ensured.

The current government also needs to launch a crackdown on
criminals exploiting the visa system.

Public pressure needs to be applied. Finger-pointing is
not going to achieve anything productive. Action is
necessary.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 5 October 2023 10:21:17 AM
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We don't want criminal gangs feeling like they can freely
operate in this country like they are doing elsewhere.
Strict laws need to be applied and we need the staff and
the resources to be able to do it.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 5 October 2023 10:25:05 AM
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Hi Foxy,

Labor are taking immediate action, by injecting $50 million into front line immigration compliance services, and boosting the number of officers up to 290 asap, and hopefully back to 2013 levels thereafter. Do you see the irony of Dutton, whilst he was outwardly the "tough talker" as the responsible minister, particularly when it came to dealing with a handful of refugees, all awhile privately cutting the services that were fighting organised crime and exploitation. Dutton can't be trusted! Then there is indy who wants to blame the wrong people!
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 5 October 2023 11:05:29 AM
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Hi Foxy,
"Public pressure needs to be applied."

How do you expect that to happen, realistically Foxy?
Anyone who criticises immigration will get labelled as being racist.
This is the situation that people like yourself have created for all of us.
- And I'm pretty sure I told you that, years ago.
You people are making a choice for the rest of us that will affect all of us
- And as for the rest of us, we're all locked in now and we have to go along with the ride.
- And I'm pretty sure I told you that as well.
Sad but true.

Hi Paul,
They'd be better off cutting immigration and spend it on social housing.
Spending more on immigration issues won't put a roof over the heads of homeless people.
I told everyone many times that our leaders are completely incompetent.
That said, this kind of thing should come as no surprise.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 5 October 2023 11:38:41 AM
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BTW, the 'Please Explain' in the threat title is very fitting.
Hate her all you want, but in my opinion the only party standing up for sensible policy on immigration is Pauline Hanson's One Nation.

And this country is stuffed, if things don't change;
- expect the numbers of homeless to continue to increase.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 5 October 2023 11:42:42 AM
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Hi Paul,

Good to learn that the current government will be
taking action. I've already sent several emails to
some MPs and Premiers. Hopefully it will encourage
them to take further action. We've got a very good
federal MP in our electorate who actually asks for
opinions on things.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 5 October 2023 12:55:54 PM
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More than a decade ago, Australia experienced a large increase in the number of Indian students enrolling in dubious VET courses: hairdressing and cooking, to name a couple. Then they sought permanent residency.

Private colleges and agencies operated as ‘middlemen’ for Australia’s immigration system; making money out of it, of course.

An 'Australian Financial Review' report has shown that the same thing has happened this year - Indian "students" enrolling at several universities, but failing to turn up for lectures. Fake colleges pinching them from universities.

A parliamentary inquiry has heard that private VET providers and unregulated agents steal students from universities for large commissions, sell work visas, and build “ghost colleges” where students do not attend classes but are awarded degrees.

The Albanese government says that it intends to do something about immigration rackets. Time will tell.

However, Albanese has signed an agreement with India that will see:

.Five year student visas, with no caps on the numbers of Indians that can study in Australia.

. From 1 July 2023, Indian graduates of Australian tertiary institutions on a student visa can apply to work without visa sponsorship for up to eight years.

That means an even larger flow of immigrants to contribute to back door immigration, pressure on housing, infrastructure and services; all of which will not be revved up to cater for the influx, and locals will suffer even more than they are now.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 5 October 2023 2:01:50 PM
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Then there is indy who wants to blame the wrong people!
Paul1405,
Is that so ? Are you trying to tell us that all these immigration positions were occupied by Dutton ?
Of course the ones at fault are those who aren't doing their job ! Going by your defence of them we can be fairly sure you're one of them !
Politician make policies good & bad but mostly bad. It's the bureaucrats who are directing the bureaudroids who in turn don't perform in their duty !
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 5 October 2023 7:49:33 PM
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Earlier I mentioned my distain for the amount of immigration and the lack of housing.
Many years ago I spoke about a need for producing relocatable homes straight off a factory production line, even if we sourced all the components overseas and simply just assembled them here.

A few days back I read an article about modular homes, you can read it here and look at the quality of the designs.
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/sep/30/more-than-a-box-smarter-than-a-prefab-modular-housing-is-back-and-this-time-with-style

Well, I just came across something that will blow your minds and show just how far ahead China really is of everyone else.
- Without further ado, I'd like to introduce you all to this:

http://www.volferda.com/

It reinforces the idea that we really should not wish to go to war with China.
We really should be thinking about being their friends and trading with them.
These are the kind of things that can help take us into the future.
Delivery time 4 to 6 weeks (from China) is probably faster than we can build houses ourselves.
What if we could tweak the designs a little and knock them out off our own production lines in 14 days?
We need solutions.

The only thing America has to offer us is a war.
I think we should build things, not blow things up.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 5 October 2023 8:37:38 PM
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[Cont.]
Here's a video, showing the inside.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJrz6x77iec
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 5 October 2023 8:43:09 PM
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Peter is not some all-embracing 'Mr-Fixit'.
His word is not the law of the land.
He is merely the spokesperson for his party?
And because 'the voice' involves changes to the constitution, surely his party has a firm view?
He needs to let people know what that is.

It need not simply be yes or no.
It could be a sensible assessment of the need for change.
Or the need to retain the same rules for everyone, whatever their racial origin?
Encouraging people to reach their own sensible conclusion?
Either way, he needs to speak clearly about this issue.
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Friday, 6 October 2023 2:07:25 AM
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Explaining anything to the village idiot is a waste of time. The only reason he's asking is because he is too stupid to get it by himself.

PS. the "Touch cop on the beat" from him should explain it all.
Posted by shadowminister, Friday, 6 October 2023 3:37:09 PM
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What we know about Dud Dutton is he went into the Queensland coppers as a Constable Clod, ten years later the Dud was invalided out still as a Constable! Old Man Dutton was then forced to gave his useless off-spring a job in the old man's construction business, probably sacked some poor sod to make way for the boy. Then under LNP patronage the firm made millions. AND this bloke wants to be the next Prime Minister of Australia! Give us a break!
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 6 October 2023 10:30:06 PM
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Stupidity has too many loyal followers whereas integrity hasn't enough to form a club !
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 7 October 2023 7:50:36 AM
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Oops ! that should have gone to fighting the untrue thread.
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 7 October 2023 7:53:12 AM
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Just heard Dutton & Karvelas, he spoke rather sensibly as did Wyatt although Wyatt couldn't refrain from a few initing words.
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 13 October 2023 8:02:22 AM
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Dutton just woke up the he's about to lose young liberal voters through voting No!.
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
Posted by Special Delivery, Sunday, 15 October 2023 9:38:29 AM
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Village idiot,

Village idiot; "What the video shows is that all the weapons carried by Hamas that could be identified were Russian or Chinese." Yes GUNS not MISSILES I was referring specifically to, ROCKETS.

Paul 1405; "It has now been confirmed by reliable sources that thousands of ROCKETS (my capitals) fired into Israel by Hamas were manufactured in United States of America." You changed from rockets to weapons to cover your lie. Yes AMERICAN MADE ROCKETS were fired by Hamas in to Israel in disgusting acts of murder!

As a Yankee and Zionist apologist, just like your man Trump, you are lying. You support only those terrorist that suit your narrative.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 15 October 2023 10:32:25 AM
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Kudos ttbn, FireballXL5, Armchair Critic, Indyvidual.
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 5:54:26 AM
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The Blame Game | Pauline Hanson's Please Explain
http://youtu.be/rg2fR4Ge7dY
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 20 October 2023 3:54:44 PM
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The Opposition Leader is not the one dividing the country and running it into the ground. For me it is, "Anthony Albanese Please Explain".

If and when Dutton gets to be PM, that's the time to question him.

In the meantime, Albanese is the one with the power, but he is not taking any responsibility. The Voice and international travel have been his big interests so far in his regime. With the Voice squashed, it will be more overseas trips, and even less responsibility.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 20 October 2023 4:17:55 PM
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Village idiot,

Once again you are simply repeating lies. Where is your proof? There is not one reliable source that claims that the rockets fired by Hamas are American. In fact, the majority are Iranian, Syrian or homemade.

Idiot.
Posted by shadowminister, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 1:08:01 AM
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Village idiot,

You say; "the majority (rockets) are Iranian, Syrian or homemade" so what are the minority AMERICAN! The Zionist are using thousands of AMERICAN made rockets and bombs to kill thousands of innocent PALESTINIAN women and children.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 6:31:37 AM
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Village idiot,

There has not been one identified American rocket fired by Hamas ever. The US military hasn't built or used unguided land-based rockets since the Korean War. This is more deliberate propaganda coming from your mate Putin.

Please stop lying.

As for the 1000s of innocent Palestinians killed, the only source of this information is from Hamas who has been caught before making up these figures.
Posted by shadowminister, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 10:50:05 AM
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Of course, there might not be so many civilians killed if the brave Hamas did not shield behind them, shooting their rockets out of hospitals, schools & other public gathering places.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 11:55:55 AM
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"As for the 1000s of innocent Palestinians killed, the only source of this information is from Hamas who has been caught before making up these figures."

I don't understand.
It's good enough for you to take your war casualty reports from the Ukrainians and dismiss all other sources.
Does it only work with whoever you personally support or is there some other factor?
Please explain
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 3:13:45 PM
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Baldrick,

Got you again, I don't use the figures from Ukraine, I use 3rd party counts and estimates whereas you simply echo Russia's and Hamas's lies.
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 26 October 2023 7:56:53 AM
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Dear Hasbeen,

How's it going old cock? Good to see you contributing in this thread.

So what is your opinion on the Israeli government pushing families into militarily occupied zones in order to capture more land for Israel?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 26 October 2023 8:23:09 AM
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Your Antisemitism, & that of the left is not a good look SR.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 26 October 2023 11:46:56 AM
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