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Leftist Youth and Depression

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CM.

I don’t see evidence of rainbow flags fluttering over China, Russia and especially North Korea.

The cult of equality under the rainbow flag needs a more detailed explanation than blaming the Communists don’t you think: Or extending the argument to include blam on Left V Right political ideology. It seems to my way of thinking, an absurd argument.

There are many and varied reasons for suicide, three stand out.

One is excommunication of youth from any political involvement under the current excuse for Democracy.

Two, the economic exclusion from the Capitalist system of Government we are erroneously led to believe is a tandem fixture of Democracy ( sic).

And three, a spiritual malaise resulting from the abandonment of cultural religion such as Christianity and Judaism, with a replacement of empty Secularism. I have views on the spiritual usefulness or not of both those in offering the ability to help on any grand scale too.
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 2 October 2023 7:58:58 PM
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CM.

1. I don’t see evidence of rainbow flags fluttering over China, Russia and especially North Korea.

2. The cult of equality under the rainbow flag needs a more detailed explanation than blaming the Communists don’t you think: Or extending the argument to include blam on Left V Right political ideology. It seems to my way of thinking, an absurd argument.

3. There are many and varied reasons for suicide, three stand out.

3(a). One is excommunication of youth from any political involvement under the current excuse for Democracy.

3(b). Two, the economic exclusion from the Capitalist system of Government we are erroneously led to believe is a tandem fixture of Democracy ( sic).

3(c). And three, a spiritual malaise resulting from the abandonment of cultural religion such as Christianity and Judaism, with a replacement of empty Secularism. I have views on the spiritual usefulness or not of both those in offering the ability to help on any grand scale too.
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 2 October 2023 7:58:58 PM

Answer 1- Communist Insurgency from memory according to Frank Kitson has several stages. China is in the fourth stage whereas communism in the west is at the second or third stages. See "Low Intensity Operations".
http://i.pinimg.com/originals/4b/d9/e1/4bd9e17fedf159987b18433d3653a907.jpg
http://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Frtl7h9an66761.png&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=27a79f945f579e6274a42be26140775d46aa4e1b3ff7906599b739e144d07d62&ipo=images

Answer 2- It's not a real equality but communism often tips it's hat to the concept of equality- embodied in various concepts including- "from those with the ability to those with the need", "cultural elitism", "false consciousness", "secularism" (including banning of religion). In the case of gay politics it equates "possibility with probability" a common fallacy. For example if there are people with red, brown, blond, black the probability of having red hair is 25% yes?- NO! A democracy is based on the principle that everybody gets one vote- when "possibility is probability" certain groups are deigned as entitled to more than one vote (by who?? agenda power!).
http://simplicable.com/society/agenda-setting
But equality is a red herring because people are different. Hebrew author Ayn Rand says unequal capitalist productivity potentially benefits everyone- as it lowers prices. The industrial revolution seems to bare this out.
Posted by Canem Malum, Monday, 2 October 2023 11:09:44 PM
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Answer 3(a)- Probably true in a sense that the youth feel powerless over their own future and governance- but so do adults. Suicide is an end point of despair. As I understand the issue with adolescents is that they don't know how to deal with their feelings- suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem- but children don't understand that it is a temporary problem- they see a deep dark hole and they can't escape.
Answer 3(b)- Yes this was an innovation that "Edward Bernays" Hebrew founder of consumer culture and nephew of Sigmund Freud brought to America at the "1937 World Fair".
http://collections.library.yale.edu/catalog/11915254?child_oid=11977466
Answer 3(c)- Communism is explicitly secular but I'd have to find the reference. I believe that Christianity is embodied differently than Judaism even though they have a common root. I suspect the original Christian's were middle eastern people rather than European's but some believe that Early Christianity was given a particularly European character that made it very different from Judaism. German philosopher Nietzsche talked about the Knightly (Aristocratic) vs the Priestly (Slave) Code- I suspect that the Knightly Code is linked with the Protestant Ethic. Hebrew fiction author Isaac Asimov talks of stages of civilization in his theory of Psycho-History. I believe that the loss of Christianity and self determination of western people is coincident with the rise of communism, globalism, multiculturalism, etc in the west and has gone through various stages.
Posted by Canem Malum, Monday, 2 October 2023 11:10:43 PM
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CM

I’m interested in addressing these issues in some depth. The lead in to this topic carries quite some bias explaining his view on outcomes; that needs addressing, and I wish to address some of these further in a day or so. I’m being scorched for time right now, but I read your responses with interest. Plenty of meat in them!
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 4:42:16 PM
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you were eligible to joint the Australian Army between the ages of 17 and 35,
Paul1405,
re your dribble above, show me one (1) Nation that has non-citizens in their Defence Force !
Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 8:50:36 AM
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Indy,

So you are an alien, still, or were you and Australian citizen before the age of 35. Well, at what age did you arrive? All question you will avoid as you probably dodged citizenship so you wouldn't have to do national service.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 11:53:14 AM
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