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The rise of the Blak National parliament

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Copying an eight hundred word into a 350-word document means editing them to state the points of the document. Of course, it does not suit Steele, or Paul, but they can read the link themselves to form their own opinion.

Within democracy the majority opinion rules, which 3% of the population cannot get noticed. The next group, which is 3%, will argue that their culture is not being fully recognized so they also need an advisory Voice in the Government. This is not feasible in administering a cohesive society. Especially when lands are disputed over who has rights to use or occupy and carry out their culture.

Foxy cannot understand tribal rights to land, waterways, beaches, and natural resources are being contested as aboriginal or Commonwealth. The removal of the Crown from Australia applies to lands allocated by the Crown to settlers. Always was, always will be, aboriginal land. The NITV constantly promote the native American scene on Australian settlement. The Australian settlement was to accommodate the native population, but some settlers abused the principle by murdering and were brought to justice.
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 5 October 2023 9:00:28 AM
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Dear oh dear. How sad it is.

Mark Kenny has an excellent article that was originally
published in The Canberra Times. He sums things up much
better than I could. So here's just a bit of it of what he
says:

"The deterioration of Australia's Voice debate is revealing
a country profoundly divided, cleaned between myth and fact.
Essentially the country looks brattish, indignant. The
scaremongering and mischief-making of recent months has
escalated to name-calling, scurrilous misrepresentation
and worse."

"One myth has been scorched - that Australia is a post-racist
society. It's not. Both sides have now complained that
Indigenous leaders are being targeted by opponents with vile
racist abuse and threats of violence. So nobody is pretending
on that score anymore."

"Racism it turns out was there all along, coursing like a
psycho-magnotheric slime beneath Gotham's streets in
Ghostbusters II, just waiting for enough boorish negativity to
summon it forth."

There's more at the following:

http://ausi.anu.edu.au/news/opinion-voice-parliament-isnt-dividing-australia-it-revealing-country

The Voice to Parliament is not dividing Australia - it's
revealing the country.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 5 October 2023 9:56:43 AM
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I think that Foxy is the one that is racist and negative.
Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 5 October 2023 10:17:09 AM
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Also it seems to me that many people at the ABC are undemocratic and racist.
Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 5 October 2023 10:19:22 AM
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Josephus,

You claim: “Copying an eight hundred word into a 350-word document means editing them to state the points of the document.”

Rubbish. Your omissions completely changed the points being made in the document.

As to your claim you had to condense to fit within the word limit your factcheck post was 253 words long. You omitted this which is 56 words long.

“While it’s true Warren Mundine used the most up-to-date figures, his quote didn’t quite convey the full story. It didn’t get across the fact that only a really small chunk of the overall Indigenous spending is on Indigenous-specific programs. Most is on mainstream programs.”

All well within the 350 word limit.

You post on Indigenous Lands was 304 words long. The opening sentence you omitted was this: "Noongar had agreed to surrender native title in the claim areas in exchange for a comprehensive set of benefits including the following and more:"

It is only 24 words long and could again have been included under the limit.

Given we have dealt with that piss poor excuse I ask again, why did you omit these significant contextual sentences in order to convey something the documents weren't? Why not argue in good faith rather than continuing to distort?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 5 October 2023 11:34:41 AM
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Hi Foxy and Steele,

Had Albo show up at our hall this morning, its being used for pre-poll and voting day until 14th, hopefully we'll have it back for Monday 16th. We were working at sorting for tomorrow's handouts. We've been consigned to the rear end behind screens using the rear door, thanks to the good grace of the returning officer, that we have access at all.

Couldn't but think when Albo was having a photo opp with the 'YES' supporters, holding up their vote 'Yes' placards. What irony do I see here, a bunch of the white dudes from the cheer squad, trying to influence the decision of other white dudes as to what's best for a bunch of black dudes. All the time we've got white and black dudes sleeping on the veranda outside here at night.

p/s; Asked Albo to give our charity a plug, ha ha. BTW I don't know if his almost black, sombre suit, was an indication of the outcome.There has been a good roll-up each day for the pre-polls.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 5 October 2023 12:36:44 PM
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