Not only are we becoming a post-Christian society, we are also becoming a post-familial society, in which marriage and family no longer play a central role.

The family is feared and hated by the totalitarians - hence the SSM attack on traditional marriage. That went well, so along came the encouragement of sexual dysfunction and now, in NSW a Bill not only to prevent counselling of sexually confused people - even if they ask for help - but the commercialisation of surrogacy so that people who maim themselves can still get their hands on children.

And, here again, the nutters want a ban on praying for troubled people. I don't how you could be caught and punished for doing that, but Premier Minns has felt the need to say that he would not consider it.

Once again, you speak sensibly TTBN. I admire your tenacity and courage to do so, especially when confronted with the likes of DAVID F. and his cohorts. Although I'm not a believer per se, having something to hold on to when facing death and the horrors in South Vietnam all those years ago, helped me to get through those awful times.

Stay strong, my friend.

It is interesting that those so keen to retain an acknowledgement of a spiritual connection at the start of government meetings are so opposed to acknowledgement of country.

Good for the goose....

Dear Steele,

On seeing Nathan's thread, I thought "Okay, and lets chuck out welcome to country with it.". At least religious spiels aren't chucked down our throats with their ceremonial usage. That cannot be said for welcome to country. You get that pretty much at the start of every ABC program these days. How would you feel if every program began with "I wish to acknowledge Jesus as our lord and Saviour"?

o sung wu

Good to hear from you. I don't call myself religious either; but I believe in a Christian way of life, even though I'm certainly a sinner like everyone else. I believe in the existence of Jesus Christ. But, like all people still living, I don't know what happens after this life. That's the big difference between david f and me: he is certain that there is nothing, that he is as lacking a soul as a possum is. He might be right, or he might be in for a big surprise. I hope he gets the surprise, because I cannot believe that this life is the best there is.

I'm glad you experienced a personal comfort during your service in Vietnam. I thank you for that service and, and I'm glad that you are still with us.

Dear ttbn,

If there is such a thing as a soul, why should a possum not have one?