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ARGO project confirms Ocean warming.

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Well not a single link from WTF. As best I can work it out, his 'analysis' comes from an article in the Guardian!!

Argo doesn't, strictly speaking, find 'warming'. It finds changes in the Ocean Heat Content which is not exactly the same thing. Of course, short-term changes don't really prove anything except in the fevered minds of the alarmists. During the early century 'pause', we were told that any analysis covering a period of less than 30 years was mere noise. Argo has been going for less than 30 years.

An interesting theory as to why the surface temperatures seem to under-going a spike at the moment. In January 2022, there was a gigantic underwater volcanic explosion from a mountain called Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha'apai volcano. Initial calculations were that it ejected 146 trillion grams (yep, trillion with a T) of water vapour into Earth's stratosphere. That's about 10% of the water already present in that atmospheric layer. Subsequently that's been upgraded to a 13% increase in the stratosphere's water vapour content.

Those versed in CO2 scare campaigns won't know that water vapour is a much more efficient greenhouse gas than the dreaded CO2. Additionally, NASA advises that "the excess water vapor injected by the Tonga volcano, on the other hand, could remain in the stratosphere for several years" and that " the huge amounts of water vapor from the eruption may have a small, temporary warming effect, since water vapor traps heat".

Of course, this gigantic explosion isn't much talked about and its climate effect is totally ignored by the MSM. After all, you can't blame mankind for the explosion or the water vapour in the atmosphere, and if you can't blame man, its just not worth discussing.

It took man 150 years to eject enough CO2 which according to the alarmists caused a c. 1c increase in temperatures. It took nature one day to achieve the same effect.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 7 August 2023 10:44:05 AM
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Just on things climatic...

Nobel Prize-Winning Physicist John Clause said "I believe that climate change is not a crisis," and "described the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) as "one of the worst sources of dangerous misinformation."

He made the comments after the IMF had cancelled a talk he was slatted to give in July. I can't imagine why he was cancelled </sarc>

"[H]e argues that climate is primarily set by what he refers to as the "cloud cover thermostat," a self-regulating process whereby more clouds start to enshroud the Earth when the temperature is too high and vice-versa. Although he accepts observations showing that atmospheric carbon dioxide is increasing, he said he believes that gas's effect on heat transfer is swamped by a great natural cloud cycle."

Natural cycle? See above.

Nobel Laurette scientist? I thought there was a consensus on climate change.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 7 August 2023 11:40:48 AM
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Dear Hasbeen,

So you don't like NAASA?

Perhaps CSIRO might do better:

http://blog.csiro.au/future-ocean-warming/
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 7 August 2023 12:08:49 PM
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Dear Individual,

The Great Barrier Reef Foundation tells us that already
marine heatwaves have triggered four mass coral bleaching
events on the Great Barrier Reef in just seven years reducing
shallow water reefs by as much as 50%. Coral reefs can
recover from bleaching over time but only if temperatures
drop and conditions return to normal.

http://barrierreef.org/the-reef/threats/climate-change#
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 7 August 2023 12:15:05 PM
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Oh dear mhaze,

Over blowing things again? This time by omission it seems.

The full quote is: "In contrast, the Tonga volcano didn’t inject large amounts of aerosols into the stratosphere, and the huge amounts of water vapor from the eruption may have a small, temporary warming effect, since water vapor traps heat. The effect would dissipate when the extra water vapor cycles out of the stratosphere and would not be enough to noticeably exacerbate climate change effects."

http://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/tonga-eruption-blasted-unprecedented-amount-of-water-into-stratosphere

It 'won't be noticed' but somehow not reporting on it to your satisfaction is a capitol offence.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 7 August 2023 12:20:02 PM
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You're right SR. I should have said the effect would be temporary.

OH WAIT...I did say it was temporary but may explain the recent temperature spikes. Still suffering those comprehension skills SR?

But then I should have said the effect would be small.

OH WAIT....I did say it was a small effect but may explain the recent temperature spikes. Still suffering those comprehension skills SR?

"It 'won't be noticed' but somehow not reporting on it to your satisfaction is a capitol [sic] offence."

Not a capital offence. Indeed exactly what I'd expect from the current media.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 7 August 2023 12:28:07 PM
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