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The Forum > General Discussion > Do you need to be sophisticated? The Dark Emu debate continues.

Do you need to be sophisticated? The Dark Emu debate continues.

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Paul1405, Wrong again. I lived in North NSW in the 1940s, not 1960s.
I was a school child and lived on a farm out of town, so I never attended adult social events. Get a life! You try to demean my life and actual experiences.

Foxy, the Voice is just the beginning of the Uluru statement. This allows aboriginal radicals to introduce Treaty and reparations. Argue against what the Uluru statement entails. It is not just about recognition of the past but opening the future to aboriginal sovereignty. Albanese is using the tactic decided after the Republic referendum Just put the question without a MODEL. Labor believed if it had no model, it would have succeeded. They do not want to disclose the details as it would fail. Praise God it is failing so it does not divide Australia by race. Those that are disadvantaged must be attended too by the appropriate ministers. Linda Burney is failing in her role and must go!
Posted by Josephus, Friday, 4 August 2023 6:00:37 PM
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Dear Yuyutsu,

I used to be concerned about population until I realised that it was an issue of personal liberty. I have also formed my opinion from research suggesting that the worlds population would not be growing were more women given access to contraception, which contrasts with your view of women being the cause. I'd also alert you to the situation in China, where the population will decline markedly in the coming decades:

https://asiasociety.org/policy-institute/last-generation-why-chinas-youth-are-deciding-against-having-children
Posted by Fester, Friday, 4 August 2023 9:00:16 PM
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Dear Foxy,

Seeing as we are quoting Carl, he also said,

"That writing as careless as von Däniken's, whose principal thesis is that our ancestors were dummies, should be so popular is a sober commentary on the credulousness and despair of our times. I also hope for the continuing popularity of books like Chariots of the Gods? in high school and college logic courses, as object lessons in sloppy thinking. I know of no recent books so riddled with logical and factual errors as the works of von Däniken."

Unfortunately for Aussie school kids the EVD of indigenous Australian history is part of the syllabus. So instead of being commended for their scholarship for debunking this nonsense, the critic of "is he or isn't he" would be failed for such efforts, or worse still be given the most shameful contemporary label for school children, "The child who thinks".
Posted by Fester, Friday, 4 August 2023 10:22:35 PM
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Foxy scolded: "Dear mhaze, Same applies to you."

The strict schoolmarm has a certain status within the fetish community but I'd doubt Foxy could carry it off.

She wants me to answer the Voice question over and over again in the hope I'll finally, out of boredom, provide the answer she demands. But I've already given my answer more times than necessary on this forum and don't intend to play these games ad infinitum. Just bring the vote on. Of course, I've laid out the circumstances under which I'd change my mind, but until such circumstances change, the issue is, as far as I'm concerned, closed. Just bring on the vote - there's no valid reason for Albanese to delay further other than he, like Foxy, just hopes we'll all, eventually, do as we're told out of boredom.

So no, Foxy, the Voice isn't the only issue. I found the information about the Bradshaw people's being a possible vector for the introduction of the boomerang to the aboriginals to be intellectually interesting and was curious to follow up. Intellectual curiosity? You should try it some time.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 5 August 2023 7:41:15 AM
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A bit more on the boomerang. As Josephus says the earliest known example dates to 30000BC in Poland.

Boomerangs have also been found in the Low countries dated to around 100BC. It seems there is also evidence of boomerangs being used by AmerIndians, particularly in and around the Pacific north-west regions. Similarly, boomerangs have been found in southern India, which poses interesting questions in regards to the possibility of population and cultural exchange between India and aboriginal Australia.

Boomerangs have been found in ancient Egypt including the tomb of Tutankhaten (c 3300BC). Experiments show that these Egyptian varieties were both the returning variety and the straight throw variety.

Boomerangs were primarily designed to travel relatively straight or as weapons of war in hand-to-hand combat. It is thought that the returning boomerang was discovered by mistake and was used in all cultures that had it more as a curiosity than as a useful tool.

Its possible that the boomerang was invented separately in each of these locations. Equally its possible that the curved hunting stick was in use by the original out-of-Africa tribes and travelled with the various branches of humanity as they expanded around the globe
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 5 August 2023 9:24:05 AM
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The Referendum is about the recognition of the
First Peoples of Australia by establishing an
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice.

We shall be asked to vote YES or NO.

That's it.

Anything else being brought up - is irrelevant and
an attempt to muddy the waters.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 5 August 2023 9:24:40 AM
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