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When we take out citizenship it is Australian not British, Foxy if you are still a British citizen I suggest you take out Australian citizenship.
Posted by Josephus, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 10:26:38 AM
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Australia's head of state is King Charles. All members of
the Australian parliament are required to make before
taking their seat in parliament an oath or affirmation of
allegiance before the Governor General (The British monarch's
representative in Australia). The wording is set out in section
42 of Australia's constitution. It pledges allegiance to
King Charles, his heirs and successors.

The oath also applies to Australia's armed forces. Navy, army, and
air-force.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 11:01:00 AM
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We might well ask why is a country that prides itself
on its egalitarianism and giving everyone a "fair go"
still decides to maintain a formal connection to the
British monarch?

Australia ia a constitutional monarchy which means that
we have a British monarch as our Head of State. They
can call themselves Queen or King of Australia when
visiting our country - but the fact remains - they are
a British monarch.

Australia supposedly is egalitarian, democratic, and
claims to believe in merit before backgound, status, class.
However, it's been unable to make it's constitutional
arrangements reflect the tenor and values of its society.

What's stopping it?

Many people are unaware of what is inside the constitution
and what it entails. Mant people think that being a republic is
inevitable. It will happen eventually. Just that there are more
important issues at present to deal with.

Our Indigenous people should be central to our conversation.
Hence the importance of the Voice.

Hopefully once this step is taken - others will follow.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 11:34:54 AM
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Dear Foxy,

I wish all nations would disappear to be replaced by convenient administrative divisions. National loyalties are merely the vehicles to embody the patriotic myths which justify people in killing each other. If we must have wars, let us send the unfit to battle each other. Their death would improve the health of humanity. Let those who are the best and brightest in mind and body stay home and make children that embody their fitness.
Posted by david f, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 11:44:14 AM
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Dear David,

Who decides who's fit and healthy?

Smacks of Nazi ideology.

Can't agree.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 11:55:43 AM
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Dear Foxy,

I have never seen any statistics in the matter, but I have the impression that most of those Americans who fought in Vietnam were the poor, the black and the uneducated. The sons of congressmen or the rich in general did not serve. Donald Trump had 'bone spurs'. In WW2 there was general mobilization. In Ukraine Fortune magazine had this to say:

"Moscow has shown little consideration for these soldiers over the past 12 months. In February 2022 troops who were told that they were going on routine exercises instead found themselves fighting a war in Ukraine. Barely trained conscripts were sent into battle in defiance of Russia’s own laws.

Civilians with medical conditions that should disqualify them from military service were called up and put into uniform. And men mobilised for wartime service were told to bring their own medical supplies because of dire shortages at the front.

Ukrainians have found Russia’s soldiers to be everything from frightened teenagers who cry when they are captured, to men who brutally torture, rape and kill civilians and prisoners-of-war with no regard for the Geneva conventions. Russia’s soldiers have turned out to be very different from the formidable fighting force that many expected a year ago."

Wars of choice are different from wars of survival in the makeup of the armed forces.
Posted by david f, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 12:16:35 PM
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