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The Voice Could Backfire on Innocent People

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SM,

Is that the same Liberal Party that at election time is happy to take preferences from the racially bigoted One Nation Party? As for the Cow Cocky Party, they rejected The Voice without even considering the details of what was being proposed. They rejected it on the grounds of; "Give the black fella nothing". These conservatives are very sus!

p/s Is the Liberal Party leader, that Dud Dutton who refused to attend Parliament the day Kevin Rudd apologised to Aboriginal people for the 'Stolen Generation'.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 12:35:46 PM
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Looking at SBS panel The Whole Table - Nakkiah Lui Wiki, claims aboriginality and hates white skin. Here ethnicity is listed a white Australian. Her worth is $5 million, she hardly needs an aboriginal voice. Her Father's name is Gibson her mother's name is Beale.
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 1:15:45 PM
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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Indigenous Australian self-determination, also known as Aboriginal Australian self-determination, is the power relating to self-governance by Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples in Australia. It is the right of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples to determine their own political status and pursue their own economic, social and cultural interests. Self-determination asserts that Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples should direct and implement Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander policy formulation and provision of services. Self-determination encompasses both Aboriginal land rights and self-governance,[1][2] and may also be supported by a treaty between a government and an Indigenous group in Australia.[3]

From the 1970s to 1990s, the Australian government supported Aboriginal groups moving from large settlements in remote areas back to outstation communities in formerly traditional lands. Also from the early 1970s, Aboriginal communities began running their own health services, legal services, and housing cooperatives.[4]"

There are those who naively believe the Voice is merely making suggestions to the elected Government. The Voice is to assist all areas of the government to reinstall what they feel is their original right to self-determination. "Always was and always will be."
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 4:28:05 PM
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Proud Boy Jose'

You hate extends to any Aboriginal who is a success, it destroys your narrative. Another lie, "Nakkiah Lui Wiki, claims aboriginality and hates white skin" Does she really, "hate white skin" provide evidence of her saying that, otherwise I'l call YOU a liar for the third time in as many days!
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 4:40:18 PM
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Warren Mundine. [edited]
"Why I Don’t Support the Voice
I have never been convinced to support the Voice, a position I share with many other Aboriginals from across the political spectrum. The reason for this is three-fold:

The Voice in a Westminster Government is not Aboriginal culture. In our cultures, only countrymen and women can speak for country. No national body can speak for the circa 300 traditional owner groups, Australia’s “First Nations,” it would be a huge bureaucratic structure drowning out real Aboriginal voices.

I am a believer in liberal democracy and all the freedoms and opportunities it creates; I don’t believe Australia and its Constitution is racist. There are racist individuals in our country.

The Parliament already has the power under the Constitution to set up a Voice to Parliament today or at any time of its choosing.

So, why go in the Constitution at an enormous cost of some $180 to $200 million (US$122 to $135 million), not including the money spent already? How about Parliament legislate the Voice and do something better with that money by spending it on the ground in ways that could produce practical results right now for disadvantaged aboriginals?

Paragraph 3 of the current proposed Voice amendment states quite clearly that the Parliament will have the power to determine the Voice’s powers, functions, structure and composition. The same powers the Parliament has now.

People have also said they want Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people to be “in the Constitution.”

You could do that with a preamble or statement that has words recognizing the people and cultures who have been living on the Australian continent for millennia. You could enshrine Indigenous treaty rights like they do in Canada or give the Commonwealth the power to make laws on native title and/or agreements between traditional owner groups and governments on matters relating to their native title and cultural rights.
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 4:54:00 PM
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hate extends to any Aboriginal who is a success,
Paul1405,
A lot of Aboriginal people are successful & even moreso because they didn't receive the financial support Aborigines enjoy !
Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 6:13:41 PM
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