I think Rainer is too blinded by hate and envy.It is never that simple Rainer.If the Capitalist's system is so bad,why are China and
Russia copying us?There are good and bad thing about our present Federal Govt.Economic and fiscal responsibility are number one in my book,since without an efficient productive economy there is no money
to help those who are less able.It is those with ability,passion capital who make our economy produce the wealth to pay for teachers,police,nurses,pollies and public servants.

Our present Federal Govt have excelled in economic management where
Labor has a long track record of failure.The US look like going into recession,we will weather that like the Asian melt down and the European recession of the late nineties.Labor gave us $90 billion debt and the Coalition gave us $90 billion surplus.Gough gave us debt in a time of resources boom and our NSW Labor Party give us infrastructure debt and high taxes during another resources boom.Who are the better economic managers?

Your passionate hate is driven by too much insecurity and the seeking of power for which you and others don't want to do the hard yards.

Rainer do not include me in that term comrade! I am a working class man, those people have been nothing but victims all over the world to comrades.
And do not share you blind hate with me I want nothing to do with it.
Vote Howard? your blindness insults me, never would I vote for him or his, however I will have played my part in getting him out of the house.

No worries Bruver, united, united, the union keeps us strong.
So you're working class with a bit of snobby bourgeoisie?
Did you see Howard last night on the 7.30 report?
When asked by KOB for the third time about whether he should contemplate stepping down to save his party - it was as though he was being asked to shoot a good dog.
He still does not see that dog as himself.
I predict a mutiny coming soon.
Even Liberals know a maniacal nutter when they see one. Late in the piece I know, but they see him as clear as we have seen him for years now.

One thing that annoys the hellout of me is that "honest john" and his party have been everything else but honest with the public on the events that have mattered.

Australians have simply had enough of his Party's deceit and neo conservative views.

Hating him may well be unproductive.

I can understand Rainier being cranky with him for his clumsy and divisive handling of Aboriginal Affairs .

Howard and his White - Armband cronies have had enough power,time and money to do the groundwork for a new, forward looking, optomistic and happier future for Indigenous Australians .

He didn't want to come forward with the leadership and Goodwill that would have made the political path smoother for this to happen .

He could have made a Statesman like Treaty with Australia's First Peoples that would have made for a Symbolic and Lawfull Peace after over 200 years of illegal occupation and disposession that at times and places included all out War .

He could have said "Sorry" and eased the pain of the Stolen Generation and their families .

Instead we still have those huge tasks ahead of us .

It will take a truly Fearless Leader to do this.

Can we replace Howard with a person having enough guts and ability to accomplish this after the next election ? I hope so.

Rainier,

Go have a look at this

http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/09/07/capitulation/

It'll warm the cockles of your heart.

Why doesn't little Johnny Howard understand that if the boat is sinking, get the hell off.
The APEC debacle is the latest little iceberg his boat has hit so why not call the election and get it over with.
God knows who the goodness is going to do a decent job of running this country when it's all over anyway.