Bazz

Yep. A ridiculous expression for black people. People who use it are too precious, too Woke, to say BLACK. Nobody talks about POCLM - it's BLM.

On this absurd, racist/apartheid nonsense - described as 'Voice to parliament: Version 8.0' in a recent article, it is pointed out that there is no evidence that the Albanese government has bothered to observe the lessons of "previous, well-intentioned" but "failed attempts" to bring 'indigenous' people to the table: 7 times since 1973.

Billions of dollars wasted, but education, housing, domestic violence and health remain a national disgrace.

All this sanctimonious, virtue signalling and absurd yabber from whiteys is sick-making - against respected, actual people of aboriginal descent saying 'no thanks' and advising that the Voice won't do a damn thing for their people. The only people who would benefit are Blakticvists and the massive ego of Chairman Albanese.

Whitlams clumsy and gross attempt at apartheid back in 1973 received a big NO from black Senator Neville Bonner, who said: "To have a separate parliament and a separate electoral roll on which only Aboriginal people will be listed will divide the Aboriginal people not only among themselves but also from the rest of the Australian community. I give a warning here and now that this will cause a lot more trouble than people seem to realise.”

The same warning has again been given against the latest Socialist mob's apartheid by the clear voices of Bonner's modern counterparts.

Only 16% of the people identifying as aborigines bothered to vote in 1973.

Ideology and politics will not solve any problems arising from living in remote areas without jobs, without education, but with the curse of alcohol and domestic violence

"In a Democratic State a constitution should not isolate a distinct genetic trait, otherwise it is not upholding one person equals one vote. It gives preference to a race who has the listening ear of Government to enforce their agenda."

Hmm... that kinda sounds like 'The Chosen Ones'... doesn't it?

Armchair,
Convicts were transported for quite a long while after the
3rd fleet. many council libraries have passenger lists for the 1800s.
Some may have been put onto "civilian" ships and sent that way.
Are you certain he was a convict ?
ttbn;
Yes the use of "Coloured" instead of Black is to widen the coverage
and reduce the number of people who are not black, ie white.
Both my parents were born in Australia and two grandparents were born
in Australia.
I will bet quids that many "aborigines" are not as indigenous as I am !

Now isn't that an interesting thought, perhaps I should be a "Tickabox" !

To all the anti-voice proponents out there in cyber-space Forum:

By claiming that the Voice will divide Australia, you are implying that Australia isn't divided now.

What hogwash. Just reading the comments here is a clear demonstration that our nation is greatly divided. To say otherwise is a denial of the bleeding obvious.

So, how can we unite? One proposal is a generous offer to Australia to simply grant the original inhabitants of this land, a voice to be heard in the parliament. Many of you argue that such a voice is unnecessary. I disagree. Indigenous peoples were treated abysmally by European colonisers and they are still treated abysmally in many cases today. (There are a gazillion examples of this and I do not need to cite them here, although the willfully blind deniers will claim otherwise.)

Will a voice work? Personally I am not sure. There are so many examples (as quoted by Maverick early in this discussion not to mention the RC into Deaths in Custody or the Bringing them home report) where governments have failed, for 1 reason or another, to listen or take heed of indigenous voices.

I agree with the statement: "I don't listen to what you say, but rather watch what you do" when it comes to politicians. Unfortunately their collective track records at that is not encouraging. Having said that though, I am willing to give the Voice a go with all its human frailties and uncertainties and will enthusiastically vote "Yes" in the coming referendum. It is the best idea to come to light in my life time.

Aries54, have you heard of:
http://www.aboriginalaffairs.nsw.gov.au/
and
http://www.aboriginalaffairs.nsw.gov.au/grants/aboriginal-affairs-naidoc-grants-program/
Much better than a Voice already in place.
A Voice is just another talk fest with a public funded bureaucratic department.

josephus,

If the whites can have a well paid talkfest - why can't
our Indigenous people be given a say? After all this is their
land that we took.