Well, I have always put my trust in what the experts
and scientific specialists advise. We have so many
experts in this country and as far as I know our
science is not corrupt. CSIRO and our other research
organisations will surely be able to advise our
government in the correct approaches to take regarding
our environmental and land management problems.

I do know that so far our track record is not good and
more needs to be done.

Hi David,

I fail to see any correlation between the beliefs of a crazy mob of religious fundo's, and the aspirational policy of 'The Australian Greens'. Modern mans environmental impact is unique in history, no animal before us has had the ability to choose to alter the natural environment to the extent that humans can. Then human induced climate change should be dismissed as simply part of the planetary evolution.

"Extinction is as much part of the process of evolution as the generation of new species" As a natural process it is, but with our ability to act in a way to upset the natural process then its not.

Dear Paul,

You wrote, “no animal before us has had the ability to choose to alter the natural environment to the extent that humans can.”

That is not true.

https://asm.org/Articles/2022/February/The-Great-Oxidation-Event-How-Cyanobacteria-Change

“According to the noted biochemist Leslie Orgel, who pioneered research on the origins of life, the earliest onset of life on our planet occurred around 3.8 billion years ago. Since oxygen was projected to be absent from the earth at that time, metabolism in living organisms would have been anaerobic, involving the use of minerals present in the ocean to generate energy. However, around 2.7 billion years ago, a peculiar group of microbes, known as cyanobacteria, evolved. Phylogenetic analyses based on 16S and 23s rRNA, genome reconstructions and fossil evidence have been used to understand the evolutionary characteristics of these early living organisms. These microbes possessed the remarkable ability to perform photosynthesis, (i.e., they could generate energy from sunlight). Cyanobacteria possessed the machinery to utilize water as a fuel source by oxidizing it. More significantly, the by-product of photosynthesis happened to be oxygen.”

The change in the atmosphere so that it contained oxygen allowed oxygen breathing organisms to develop. Cyanobacteria made a more profound change than anything humans have done.

You also wrote, “I fail to see any correlation between the beliefs of a crazy mob of religious fundo's, and the aspirational policy of 'The Australian Greens'.

I do. I believe with David Hume that reason is the slave of the passions. We have opinions formed by our social milieu, and then we find reasons to support them. That is true for religious fundos and Australian Greens.

Yes, the great oxidation event.

https://asm.org/Articles/2022/February/The-Great-Oxidation-Event-How-Cyanobacteria-Change

"Well, I have always put my trust in what the experts
and scientific specialists advise."

A sentiment I strongly agree with Foxy, but decisions are much more guesswork without research. A US citizen in Mexico recently burned a few grams of sulphur then sent the collected sulphur dioxide into the atmosphere in a weather balloon. The Mexican government then rushed through legislation to ban attempts at geoengineering. Last year industrial processes released about 1.8 million tonnes of sulphur dioxide into the atmosphere.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/green-tech/a42624183/mexico-bans-solar-geoengineering/

In 2012 in Canada a fellow dumped about 100 tonnes of dirt into the ocean, creating an algal bloom. A world ban on such practices followed swiftly, yet a vast amount human effluent flows into the worlds oceans causing huge algal blooms great ecological damage.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/huge-algae-bloom-canada-triggered-companys-fertilization-experiment-flna1c6500992

Wouldn't it be better to understand these processes by researching them instead of imposing bans? Those indiscriminate releases of waste could bring benefit instead of harm, yet without research nobody will know and the harm will continue.

David is not far off the mark likening the Greens to a fundamentalist cult.

Dear Fester,

I did not liken the Greens to a fundamentalist cult. I just think there are certain ways of thought we all share. I am not wise. If I were I wouldn't say anything. If one says anything it will probably be misinterpreted.

Hi Fester,

I worked for CSIRO for several years.
Their research is first class.
I would trust their recommendations.