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The Forum > General Discussion > Cardinal Pell dies in Rome - Age 81.

Cardinal Pell dies in Rome - Age 81.

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Foxy, Paul,

The police, the judiciary the state etc all were "enablers" who turned a blind eye to what was going on. The Labor party and the greens had sexual predators against which suspicions were ignored for many years. Bill Shorten had a live and coherent accusation of rape against him and with more evidence than Pell but was protected by the political left who appear to make up most of the court of public opinion to which you refer.

Paul, the truce applies only to me as you have no problems breaking it.
Posted by shadowminister, Sunday, 5 February 2023 9:20:45 PM
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As for defending Pell, I am no fan of him or the catholic church, however, whenever I see the rabid left attacking anyone purely because of a position he holds with little or no evidence I will call it out.

Notably, these atrocities also occurred in public institutions, the Salvation Army and plenty more with not a peep coming from the rabid left. That the JC's call for any witnesses against Pell came with the carrot of potential compensation was the trigger for a plethora of unsubstantiated and vague accusations against him.
Posted by shadowminister, Sunday, 5 February 2023 9:42:15 PM
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shadowminister,

It was Pell's actions that are being judged.
And his record speaks for itself.
You can make it political - but the facts don't
change. The man was an abomination and got off
lightly. Our legal system needs reforming.

I see no further point in going around in circles
regarding Pell. Whether you like the man or his
church to me is irrelevant. Both have a lot to
answer. Both are tarnished. Reforms are needed.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 6 February 2023 8:47:10 AM
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Foxy,

He died without a single charge against him. His record is clean. Unlike some labor and green figures that are in jail.

I don't think your desire for kangaroo courts is going to catch on.
Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 1:45:29 AM
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shadowminister,

I have more faith in today's Australians - who are
different from the narrow-minded ones of the past.
Change is happening in this country, unfortunately
slower than it should - but considering this
country's history - I guess that's to be expected.
But it is and will continue to happen. Change is
inevitable - which gives many of us hope.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 8:56:44 AM
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As for Pell's reputation?

That has been lost a long time ago.
And it's something that even the High Court
can't succeed in restoring. It managed to
release from jail - but it didn't elevate him
in the court of public opinion. There will
always remain -a question over his innocence
as long as his victims survive and continue to tie
ribbons around church fences and gates - including
around the cathedral in whose crypt he lies.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 9:03:39 AM
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