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Election of Indigenous Representation

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Mise, thought you should know that most of us read pretty broadly, certainly more than those Phantom comic books you keep paraphrasing.
Posted by Rainier, Monday, 17 September 2007 8:28:24 PM
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Now if you really want an example of racism how about a respected
Aboriginal man who shocked other Aboriginal men (and me) by asking them,

"Did you marry back?"

They ask him what does he mean and he says "Has your wife got more colour than you?"
They ask in some amazement why? "Why would I do that?"

"So your kids have more blood than you.".

Now that's racism. This particular bloke, who was a good friend, later married a white woman and when I tackled him about 'marrying back' he grinned, through his beard and said "Ah mate, love's blind".

He's dead now so we wont mention his name because I don't know the
mourning customs of his mob, but if you've been around you'll know who I mean. Used to act a bit in films too.

Advising people to face reality is not showing lack of understanding or compassion nor is it denying the happenings of the past.

Aboriginal people are never going to get Australia back, it's worth to much. Simple as that.

Just suppose for a moment that they did; a more powerful, more numerous people with expansionist ideas would simply come and take it.

Look at West New Guinea and ponder.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 17 September 2007 8:59:18 PM
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Is Mise wrote: Indeginous [sic] reps in Parliament is a regressive step which would only delay the advancement of Aboriginal people.
If you believe this, Mise then I suppose you think that having 'Green" reps will disadvantage the conservation movement, Religious independents will disadvantage religion, Reps from the chamber of commerce will disadvantage commerce...? Why don't you think about what you write before pressing the keys? As for "advancement" I presume you mean jumping on the consumer treadmill that is destroying the planet? Perhaps it might be an idea if 'white' culture backed off from all this 'advancement' and took a leaf out of the book of a people that survived for about 60,000 years perfectly well without doing any damage to their environment.
As for marrying 'back', it wasn't a racist notion, it was an idea to preserve culture -- an idea, Mise, not a law. You may have noticed that catholics tend to marry catholics, Muslims muslims, jews Jews and so on for similar reasons.
Posted by ybgirp, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 12:38:30 PM
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What a tosser!
Posted by Rainier, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 6:04:50 PM
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Well now, if the notion of marrying back is not racist then I am much relieved because I have a friend who is half Aboriginal and half Irish and she married a bloke from Connemarra, one Padraig O'Suilleabhan, because she wanted her children to have more Irish blood, an' here was me thinkin' that she was bein' racist. She's learning Irish Gaelic and both the kids are already good speakers.

If you have Indigenous reps in Parliament they will be marginalised and resented when they speak on any other subject than that which they are perceived to be restricted to.
What is necessary is reps who are elected by the ordinary voters who will stick up for Aboriginals as well as the rest of the citizens.

Or start an Aboriginal party and get some people elected, the notion that if you can't get enough votes then you should have a rep apponted goes against the concept of Democracy.

Hark to my final sentence in my last post. We have a country to our north west that would take this place over if given the chance and if it were not for European settlement there would proobably not be any recogniseable Aboriginal people left, for those who are wiping out the culture and identity of the West New Guineans would have long since left little trace of you blokes.

The future of the Aboriginal people lies within mainstream Australia, and with education, for without that you are finished.
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 10:12:37 PM
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Mise,

I agree with you about education but how would you explain someone who is Aboriginal (like me) who is vastly more educated and qualified than you and who retains cultural beliefs and practices?

Moreover, how do you explain this, not to me, but to yourself?

Indeed, how do you explain your own inadequacies to yourself?

I suspect that all your crap is really about you. Its not about me/us at all, we are just a convenience. It’s about your own failures and insecurities.

Have you got a mirror there, look deeply into it and you’ll see what you (not me or mine) have created.

Don’t blame me or mine, we have our own problems. People like you being one of them.
Posted by Rainier, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 10:39:11 PM
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