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Election of Indigenous Representation

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There was no invasion, that is a myth dreamed up by activists to further their own agendas.
1,200 or so poorly equiped and largly unarmed people, mainly Europeans, set up camp at Sydney Cove and the locals were so poorly organised that they couldn't or didn't bother to offer any resistance.

One decent attack by the Aboriginal people would have hurled the newcomers into the sea.
They were so vastly outnumbered that they would have been childs play to any organised people no matter how poorly those people were armed.

Face up to it, there is no returning to the old ways, because as soon as you learned to read and write the past was gone. Remember the past and be proud of your culture but to live and prosper in modern Australia you must become part of the mainstream.

Indeginous reps in Parliament is a regressive step which would only delay the advancement of Aboriginal people.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 15 September 2007 7:33:14 AM
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Ise Mise,
Twelve hundred people from outer space arrive at your local camp ground and you say the local land owners didn't consider it an "invasion" . You are having a lend of us .

The truth ,however unpalatable to white senstivities should at least be acknowledged .
Posted by kartiya jim, Saturday, 15 September 2007 8:17:21 AM
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By no streatch of the immagination was it an invasion, it couldn't even be called an incursion.
I'm not having a lend of anybody.
There was no invasion, period.

Not only that there was no nation to invade.
The notion of an Aboriginal Nation is only an idea picked up from European culture.
See learning to read and write does change things and there is no going back.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 15 September 2007 8:39:35 AM
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Ise Mise ,

Ok , you say "no Nation to invade" .

I say instead the plan was "we will invade the country of those Black inhabitants of that great south land although we are not sure whether they speak a different language in Perth to Sydney - that doesn't matter, muskets and swivel guns talk all languages, and we know from reports they probably won't like us taking over anyway."

Now you may observe Australia is a big country ,big enough to hold all those European Nations with so many different languages that you say all these strange notions of nationhood come from .

There may be an islet, say Norfolk Island that would better suit you your ideas.

Then again the penguins may have something to say about that .
Posted by kartiya jim, Saturday, 15 September 2007 9:14:08 AM
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Is Mise, you are a rabid racist but don't realise it. Not only do you appear to have no knowledge of the facts of the European occupation of Australia with the consequent displacement, murder, torture, enslavement and genocide of the original inhabitants, but you even deny such things occurred. But even that is not as distressing as your total lack of understanding of and compassion for the consequences. This I find truly shocking. You probably own your own house and car and have had a reasonable education. I wonder if you would be in the same position if your parents had worked all their lives, but had their wages stolen by the government to use for the construction of roads and hospitals and city schools, so you were brought up with no amenities in the cheapest and nastiest rental accomodation because the dominant society wouldnt rent good houses to your sort, and because of the theft of most of your parent's wages you couldnt afford anything better. I wonder what you would feel if your grand parents had been murdered, your aunts and cousins poisoned and imprisoned, your uncles and brothers dragged from their lands and dumped in reserves or in exile with hundreds of people they didnt know on Palm Island.
Read rosalind Kidd's "The Way we civilize" and her latest book on Stolen Wages, and then see if your callous dismissal of aboriginal welfare is justified.
Posted by ybgirp, Monday, 17 September 2007 12:10:36 PM
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ybgirp: "Is Mise, you are a rabid racist but don't realise it."

While that's quite probably true, what is certain is that Is Mise's knowledge of Australian history and law with respect to Indigenous dispossession is utterly woeful.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Monday, 17 September 2007 3:59:40 PM
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