Ttbn

Your love of Howard is blind. Howard did more than most of his predecessors in destroying representative Democracy, and landing this electorate into the sloth of political irrelevance than most before him.

Here is a copy of my post on the front page, and saves me the wasted effort of repeating it all:

*… How many of us watched as the Liberals tore down the one true peoples representitive party, the Union movement, a peoples solidarity movement, a truely representative movement with a history of struggle over many years grounded in listening to the voice from an electorate which is now generally ignored.

The Liberals were pretty much responsible for working against the electorate it now pretends to serve; but it doesn’t at all represent a majority of the electorate below the management class.

Both major parties have ceased their relevance to the battlers, the vast majority of the population.

If it weren’t such an ideological pig, amusingly, the ABC would
Make for a more representative political party.
That sadly is no joke

…:

Where aboriginal Voices in other nations have given status independent of a public election, they have been run by activists and have demonstrated preference over the settled population.

Australia at present has Eleven aboriginal voices in Federal Parliament and note who has come from a remote community with disadvantage? They all have different voices, and another bureaucratic organization based in Canberra is not a grass root organization based in the bush but a head office in a first World location - Canberra. They will not be experiencing the disadvantage they are supposed to be representing. It will be an elite group living a high life off Taxpayer money.

Dan

I don't "love" Howard, but I can't agree that he 'destroyed' representative democracy; he was the only PM since Menzies who knew what it was about, and knew what people wanted. He did go off at the end, and paid for it by losing an election and his own seat. Multiculturalism, particularly the Chinese component of that stupidity, did for him.

I can't say that I agree with you on unions, either, although I'm not particularly anti-union, and agree that those who actually do what they are supposed to do (very few of them these days) they are good for employees. And, in my 13 different jobs over the years, I was a member of all the relevant unions.

I am no friend of the Liberal Party; and I think that they have been rubbish since Howard. Now, they are beyond rubbish, and beyond redemption under the present leadership. Dutton is an even bigger disappointment than Abbott. I have read their response to the election loss, and what they think that should do, and it is another step towards them disappearing altogether. They have absorbed the core policies of the other side, bringing the differences between the two parties close to zero.

Nice to hear from you. There's a lot we agree on.

Josephus

All true. But it doesn't fit the ideology of the Leftists who are determined to continue with the politics of fear and division.

There's a massive difference between what people want, what they deserve, what they can handle & what their merit affords them !

Dear Armchair Critic,

The plan has a hell of a lot of detail already. 272 pages to be frank.

This was co-designed with the Liberal Kew Wyatt as the lead.

https://voice.niaa.gov.au/sites/default/files/2021-12/indigenous-voice-co-design-process-final-report_1.pdf

Let me know if you have any questions after you have read it.

Hi SteeleRedux,
Thanks for sharing the link, I'll try to flick through it in the coming days when I have spare time.
I didn't want to be close minded about it from the onset;
- Even though I am skeptical whether it's the right path forward, for reasons already given.
I wanted to a least have a look at the details in an open-minded way first.