“So what options are there for the Rudd Government?” Given Rudd’s massive ego and global leadership aspirations, and the fact that he intends to put up his stupid ETS for a third time, Rudd probably isn’t interested in options. It’s all or nothing with the ego-maniac.

All we can hope for is that non-Government Senators hold their nerve and slap Rudd down again. The man isn’t capable of changing his mind

What was suppose to be the world's greatest 'moral challenge' according to Mr Rudd is now being exposed as the world's biggest fraud. Maybe Mr Rudd was right after all. To see masses of gullible people taken in by the fraudsters whose prophecies were formed by corrupt data, lies and manipulation demonstrates how low our current Government will go in order to gain international status. If the general public knew how much has been wasted on this fraud the Government would be tossed out. Thankfully the other socialist leader Mr Turnbull has been found wanting and disposed of. Hopefully Mr Abbott will stop playing politics and go back to his gut instinct when he called man made climate change crap. Only the naive would deny Mr Abbots comments. I feel sorry for the scientist who tried to stick by their principals only to be sidelines and berated.

"Even after several years of public debate"

Since when has their been any public debate when it comes to this federal governments policy.
Any time their is any debate, the name calling starts.
There is no such thing as "debate" with this government
Even the media is unwilling to take this government on.

This is some form of Madness that seems to afflict the ALP from time to time , with a little bit of License it can be likened to the fabulous "Outcomes Based Education" scam that paralyzed Education in WA for nearly ten years , finally ending with PE Teachers trying to teach maths ? Too many Teachers left the public sector Edu. to Private or sold their skills to Industry .
Strange happenings were born from the conflict culminating in the Teachers union representing the Govt against the Teachers; can't believe that ? Tap PLATOWA into Google .
It was an ugly affair with threats , and like "Anthropogenic Global Warming" Divisive and Corrosive attitudes towards the "Skeptics & Deniers". The Victims were the Kids and their Parents , I don't know what happened to the Teachers .......probably moved East .

Get the way Penny Wong says "Denier or Skeptic" designed to make you feel "Dirty or Queer" would have to be one of the most ugly debating techniques in Politics ever ; the guts of the Psalm Grinders Basket .
Come to think about it , there was no debate just an artificial "Climate of Fear" tipping points etc to hype it up , terrible deceitful Politics designed to trip the people by deception ; the would be Emperors should be shamed then disappear , struggle off and die .

I think the whole subject of anthromorphic climate change is looking more and more like the battleship Bismarck in its final hours, when the British battleship Rodney was standing off and firing broadsides of 16 inch armor-piercing shells into the Bismarck at point blank range.

Thank heavens for our constitution, and for the Senate. Thank heavens that in 60 years of proportional voting in Senate elections, the people have never given the Labor Party a majority there. Thank heavens for the constitutional provision that if a vote in the Senate is equal, the question passes in the negative.

plerdsus ; "Passes in the negative". That means it doesent pass yes ?

Soooo, Kevvy could morph from climate change alarmist to climate change skeptc.

That would be consistant ... for who was once an Economic Conservative?

Cannot wait for the article justifying the change!

The Labor Government now faces a choice. It can adapt its climate policy to take advantage of the political realities of 2010, or face a third rejection of its CPRS in an election year.
Leigh Ewbank, Is that the level of your integrity ? What's more pressing ? Combat emission or keep a loose assembly of inadequate individuals at the controls. I give up !

Suddenly, since Copenhagen, the cataclysm is no longer imminent. The 'tipping point' has stopped tipping and the Polar Bears have not co-operated by actually increasing their numbers. The Northern Hemisphere is shivering. Serious data faking has been exposed and the house of cards is falling down. The ETS remains unexplained because to explain it is to admit its a permanent tax of Medicare levy proportions some of which will be gladly received by carbon trading middle men while some will be sent to corrupt regimes in developing countries gratis.

Abbott has correctly sensed a change of mood in the electorate and Rudd is desperately trying to hold it all together with an unsellable policy. Soon the infighting will start in the Labor Party. The PM may suddenly entertain the idea of a 'reshuffle' which is likely to create personal vendettas and factional wars. The Government would then be at risk from an implosion and Rudd could be tempted to call a double dissolution to save face and sure-up his position.

I thought Labor's approach was to make the right sounding noises, pretend Carbon Capture and Storage is genuinely feasible and economically viable to justify keeping the coal fires burning and try and blame the LibNats for the ending up with overall policy that's looks like business as usual with a pistachio paint job.

Doing the least it can get away with, no more than the least that the least developed of our trading partners will sign up to, quietly continuing the massive expansion of fossil fuel mining and export... don't know why the deniers keep arguing; by the looks of mainstream policy from Labor - and from LibNat's - there's no indication that they really think the biggest challenge of our times is worth making any serious effort for. Pathetic.